A fool with a tool ... Vehicle service tags

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A fool with a tool ... Vehicle service tags

Thilo Haug OSM

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Frederik Ramm frederik at remote.org
Fri Jan 4 12:29:34 UTC 2019

Hi,

I agree there seems to be a problem here that needs careful discussion &
consideration, but:

On 03.01.19 16:47, Thilo Haug OSM wrote:
> So which ACTION should we take now ?
> At least those who introduced it should be in charge.

The ACTION should definitely not be you mass-editing things back to how
you think they should be tagged. This can be discussed here and we can
make a change AFTER that, not while.

Bye
Frederik
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I agree, but last time this wasn't very successful :
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2018-May/036095.html

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Sérgio V. svolk2 at hotmail.com
Fri Jan 4 11:54:17 UTC 2019

Even if the tag keys were not propper, you've just removed many specific information about services that were in the values, such as batteries; brakes; electrical; inspection; muffler; oil_change.
Without preserving them in any other usefull, or more propper tag if needed.
https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/66006238
Simply removing true info is not a good deal.
Where and how would someone find those specific infos about car services again?
Are you considering the validity of those previously tagged specific infos, and the efforts of who did it to put valuable info in to OSM, in your large-scale re-tagging?

Sérgio

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Yeah, this should be discussed beforehand,
whether we then also tag all items in a supermarket,
or instead use more generic tags like food/non-food.

I'd suggest :

batteries; brakes:
car:parts=yes         OR         car:parts=batteries;brakes (if only)

electrical :
unclear what is meant, electrical repair or electric cars ?
either :
car:repair=yes        OR         car:repair=electrical (if only)
OR
car:type=electric

inspection
car:repair=inspection (if only, such as pitstop and similar)

muffler; oil_change
car:repair=muffler;oil_change (if only)

I think it's vital to follow those principles:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standardization#Effect_on_consumers
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KISS_principle

Cheers,
Thilo


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Re: A fool with a tool ... Vehicle service tags

Sérgio V.
As talking on tools, standards and principles, I think what is vital is to follow "OSM principles":

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Good_practice

*Don't remove tags that you don't understand*

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/How_We_Map

*Do not engage in large-scale "cleanups" without securing the agreement of the relevant community or talking to the people whose work you aim to "clean".*

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