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Can somebody give me a hint please?

Jeroen Baten
Hi,

This is a newbie question:
so I have an aerial photo of a part of central France but I don't know
the exact location.
I know it is max 10 minutes from a city.
I want to find the place on the map.
My photo shows two roads in an angle.
Is there a way I can use to locate where this is?
Some sort of low level GIS query maybe?

Looking forward to your answers.

Kind regards,
Jeroen Baten


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Re: Can somebody give me a hint please?

Tim Frey
Hi Jeroen,

when it was taken on a mobile, then you have a high likelihood that the picture has exif geo tags...
Do you think that this is the case?

Best
Tim


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Hi,

This is a newbie question:
so I have an aerial photo of a part of central France but I don't know the exact location.
I know it is max 10 minutes from a city.
I want to find the place on the map.
My photo shows two roads in an angle.
Is there a way I can use to locate where this is?
Some sort of low level GIS query maybe?

Looking forward to your answers.

Kind regards,
Jeroen Baten


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Re: Can somebody give me a hint please?

Jeroen Baten

Nope, unfortunately it is clearly a screenshot taken from google maps.

Op 19-06-18 om 10:43 schreef Tim Frey:

> Hi Jeroen,
>
> when it was taken on a mobile, then you have a high likelihood that the picture has exif geo tags...
> Do you think that this is the case?
>
> Best
> Tim
>
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Jeroen Baten <[hidden email]>
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 19. Juni 2018 10:35
> An: [hidden email]
> Betreff: [OSM-talk] Can somebody give me a hint please?
>
> Hi,
>
> This is a newbie question:
> so I have an aerial photo of a part of central France but I don't know the exact location.
> I know it is max 10 minutes from a city.
> I want to find the place on the map.
> My photo shows two roads in an angle.
> Is there a way I can use to locate where this is?
> Some sort of low level GIS query maybe?
>
> Looking forward to your answers.
>
> Kind regards,
> Jeroen Baten
>
>

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Re: Can somebody give me a hint please?

Milo van der Linden-5
Screenshots from google maps infringe copyright. I advice oyu not to use it.

2018-06-19 10:43 GMT+02:00 Jeroen Baten <[hidden email]>:

>
> Nope, unfortunately it is clearly a screenshot taken from google maps.
>
> Op 19-06-18 om 10:43 schreef Tim Frey:
>> Hi Jeroen,
>>
>> when it was taken on a mobile, then you have a high likelihood that the picture has exif geo tags...
>> Do you think that this is the case?
>>
>> Best
>> Tim
>>
>>
>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>> Von: Jeroen Baten <[hidden email]>
>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 19. Juni 2018 10:35
>> An: [hidden email]
>> Betreff: [OSM-talk] Can somebody give me a hint please?
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> This is a newbie question:
>> so I have an aerial photo of a part of central France but I don't know the exact location.
>> I know it is max 10 minutes from a city.
>> I want to find the place on the map.
>> My photo shows two roads in an angle.
>> Is there a way I can use to locate where this is?
>> Some sort of low level GIS query maybe?
>>
>> Looking forward to your answers.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Jeroen Baten
>>
>>
>
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Re: Can somebody give me a hint please?

Jeroen Baten

I did not make it. Some French estate agent did :-).


Op 20-06-18 om 15:00 schreef Milo van der Linden:

> Screenshots from google maps infringe copyright. I advice oyu not to use it.
>
> 2018-06-19 10:43 GMT+02:00 Jeroen Baten <[hidden email]>:
>>
>> Nope, unfortunately it is clearly a screenshot taken from google maps.
>>
>> Op 19-06-18 om 10:43 schreef Tim Frey:
>>> Hi Jeroen,
>>>
>>> when it was taken on a mobile, then you have a high likelihood that the picture has exif geo tags...
>>> Do you think that this is the case?
>>>
>>> Best
>>> Tim
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>> Von: Jeroen Baten <[hidden email]>
>>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 19. Juni 2018 10:35
>>> An: [hidden email]
>>> Betreff: [OSM-talk] Can somebody give me a hint please?
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> This is a newbie question:
>>> so I have an aerial photo of a part of central France but I don't know the exact location.
>>> I know it is max 10 minutes from a city.
>>> I want to find the place on the map.
>>> My photo shows two roads in an angle.
>>> Is there a way I can use to locate where this is?
>>> Some sort of low level GIS query maybe?
>>>
>>> Looking forward to your answers.
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>> Jeroen Baten
>>>
>>>
>>
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Re: Can somebody give me a hint please?

Milo van der Linden-5
Still. I strongly advice you not to use it.

2018-06-20 15:13 GMT+02:00 Jeroen Baten <[hidden email]>:

>
> I did not make it. Some French estate agent did :-).
>
>
> Op 20-06-18 om 15:00 schreef Milo van der Linden:
>> Screenshots from google maps infringe copyright. I advice oyu not to use it.
>>
>> 2018-06-19 10:43 GMT+02:00 Jeroen Baten <[hidden email]>:
>>>
>>> Nope, unfortunately it is clearly a screenshot taken from google maps.
>>>
>>> Op 19-06-18 om 10:43 schreef Tim Frey:
>>>> Hi Jeroen,
>>>>
>>>> when it was taken on a mobile, then you have a high likelihood that the picture has exif geo tags...
>>>> Do you think that this is the case?
>>>>
>>>> Best
>>>> Tim
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>>> Von: Jeroen Baten <[hidden email]>
>>>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 19. Juni 2018 10:35
>>>> An: [hidden email]
>>>> Betreff: [OSM-talk] Can somebody give me a hint please?
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> This is a newbie question:
>>>> so I have an aerial photo of a part of central France but I don't know the exact location.
>>>> I know it is max 10 minutes from a city.
>>>> I want to find the place on the map.
>>>> My photo shows two roads in an angle.
>>>> Is there a way I can use to locate where this is?
>>>> Some sort of low level GIS query maybe?
>>>>
>>>> Looking forward to your answers.
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards,
>>>> Jeroen Baten
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
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>>> Netherlands
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>
>>
>>
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Re: Can somebody give me a hint please?

Milo van der Linden-5
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FAQ#Why_don.27t_you_just_use_Google_Maps.2Fwhoever_for_your_data.3F

2018-06-20 15:21 GMT+02:00 Milo van der Linden <[hidden email]>:

> Still. I strongly advice you not to use it.
>
> 2018-06-20 15:13 GMT+02:00 Jeroen Baten <[hidden email]>:
>>
>> I did not make it. Some French estate agent did :-).
>>
>>
>> Op 20-06-18 om 15:00 schreef Milo van der Linden:
>>> Screenshots from google maps infringe copyright. I advice oyu not to use it.
>>>
>>> 2018-06-19 10:43 GMT+02:00 Jeroen Baten <[hidden email]>:
>>>>
>>>> Nope, unfortunately it is clearly a screenshot taken from google maps.
>>>>
>>>> Op 19-06-18 om 10:43 schreef Tim Frey:
>>>>> Hi Jeroen,
>>>>>
>>>>> when it was taken on a mobile, then you have a high likelihood that the picture has exif geo tags...
>>>>> Do you think that this is the case?
>>>>>
>>>>> Best
>>>>> Tim
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>>>> Von: Jeroen Baten <[hidden email]>
>>>>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 19. Juni 2018 10:35
>>>>> An: [hidden email]
>>>>> Betreff: [OSM-talk] Can somebody give me a hint please?
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> This is a newbie question:
>>>>> so I have an aerial photo of a part of central France but I don't know the exact location.
>>>>> I know it is max 10 minutes from a city.
>>>>> I want to find the place on the map.
>>>>> My photo shows two roads in an angle.
>>>>> Is there a way I can use to locate where this is?
>>>>> Some sort of low level GIS query maybe?
>>>>>
>>>>> Looking forward to your answers.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>> Jeroen Baten
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
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>>>>  ____  _  __              | web   :  www.i2rs.nl
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>>>>  _|_/_| \__)              | Molenwindsingel 46, 4105 HK, Culemborg, the
>>>> Netherlands
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> talk mailing list
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>>>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
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>>  _|_/_| \__)              | Molenwindsingel 46, 4105 HK, Culemborg, the
>> Netherlands
>
>
>
> --
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Re: Can somebody give me a hint please?

Jeroen Baten

Correct, but they are talking in the FAQ about reuse of the data on
which Google has a license.

That is different from getting a photo of google maps attached in an email.

It is just a different kind of copyright.

Still, it seems nobody can give me a hint/direction how to solve my problem.

Regards,
Jeroen

Op 20-06-18 om 15:22 schreef Milo van der Linden:

> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FAQ#Why_don.27t_you_just_use_Google_Maps.2Fwhoever_for_your_data.3F
>
> 2018-06-20 15:21 GMT+02:00 Milo van der Linden <[hidden email]>:
>> Still. I strongly advice you not to use it.
>>
>> 2018-06-20 15:13 GMT+02:00 Jeroen Baten <[hidden email]>:
>>>
>>> I did not make it. Some French estate agent did :-).
>>>
>>>
>>> Op 20-06-18 om 15:00 schreef Milo van der Linden:
>>>> Screenshots from google maps infringe copyright. I advice oyu not to use it.
>>>>
>>>> 2018-06-19 10:43 GMT+02:00 Jeroen Baten <[hidden email]>:
>>>>>
>>>>> Nope, unfortunately it is clearly a screenshot taken from google maps.
>>>>>
>>>>> Op 19-06-18 om 10:43 schreef Tim Frey:
>>>>>> Hi Jeroen,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> when it was taken on a mobile, then you have a high likelihood that the picture has exif geo tags...
>>>>>> Do you think that this is the case?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best
>>>>>> Tim
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>>>>> Von: Jeroen Baten <[hidden email]>
>>>>>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 19. Juni 2018 10:35
>>>>>> An: [hidden email]
>>>>>> Betreff: [OSM-talk] Can somebody give me a hint please?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is a newbie question:
>>>>>> so I have an aerial photo of a part of central France but I don't know the exact location.
>>>>>> I know it is max 10 minutes from a city.
>>>>>> I want to find the place on the map.
>>>>>> My photo shows two roads in an angle.
>>>>>> Is there a way I can use to locate where this is?
>>>>>> Some sort of low level GIS query maybe?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Looking forward to your answers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>> Jeroen Baten
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Jeroen Baten              | EMAIL :  [hidden email]
>>>>>  ____  _  __              | web   :  www.i2rs.nl
>>>>>   |  )|_)(_               | tel   :  +31 (0)345 - 75 26 28
>>>>>  _|_/_| \__)              | Molenwindsingel 46, 4105 HK, Culemborg, the
>>>>> Netherlands
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> talk mailing list
>>>>> [hidden email]
>>>>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
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>>>  _|_/_| \__)              | Molenwindsingel 46, 4105 HK, Culemborg, the
>>> Netherlands
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Milo van der Linden
>> web: dogodigi
>> tel: +31-6-16598808
>
>
>

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Re: Can somebody give me a hint please?

Oleksiy Muzalyev
I do not know how to do it via query. In fact, I think it would be a
hard problem.

However, since it is 10 minutes from a city a medical helicopter pilot
or a recreational light aircraft pilot may recognize it. People are very
good at recognizing patterns. I heard the SNCF, the French railway, uses
RPAS to survey its network [1].

For example, I think I could probably recognize an area around a town
where I live from an aerial image, since being an amateur RPAS pilot I
saw it quite a lot from the air.

[1] https://www.sncf-reseau.fr/en/about/strategy/drones-serving-industry

brgds
O.

On 20.06.18 15:26, Jeroen Baten wrote:

> Correct, but they are talking in the FAQ about reuse of the data on
> which Google has a license.
>
> That is different from getting a photo of google maps attached in an email.
>
> It is just a different kind of copyright.
>
> Still, it seems nobody can give me a hint/direction how to solve my problem.
>
> Regards,
> Jeroen
>
> Op 20-06-18 om 15:22 schreef Milo van der Linden:
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FAQ#Why_don.27t_you_just_use_Google_Maps.2Fwhoever_for_your_data.3F
>>
>> 2018-06-20 15:21 GMT+02:00 Milo van der Linden <[hidden email]>:
>>> Still. I strongly advice you not to use it.
>>>
>>> 2018-06-20 15:13 GMT+02:00 Jeroen Baten <[hidden email]>:
>>>> I did not make it. Some French estate agent did :-).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Op 20-06-18 om 15:00 schreef Milo van der Linden:
>>>>> Screenshots from google maps infringe copyright. I advice oyu not to use it.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2018-06-19 10:43 GMT+02:00 Jeroen Baten <[hidden email]>:
>>>>>> Nope, unfortunately it is clearly a screenshot taken from google maps.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Op 19-06-18 om 10:43 schreef Tim Frey:
>>>>>>> Hi Jeroen,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> when it was taken on a mobile, then you have a high likelihood that the picture has exif geo tags...
>>>>>>> Do you think that this is the case?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>> Tim
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>>>>>> Von: Jeroen Baten <[hidden email]>
>>>>>>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 19. Juni 2018 10:35
>>>>>>> An: [hidden email]
>>>>>>> Betreff: [OSM-talk] Can somebody give me a hint please?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is a newbie question:
>>>>>>> so I have an aerial photo of a part of central France but I don't know the exact location.
>>>>>>> I know it is max 10 minutes from a city.
>>>>>>> I want to find the place on the map.
>>>>>>> My photo shows two roads in an angle.
>>>>>>> Is there a way I can use to locate where this is?
>>>>>>> Some sort of low level GIS query maybe?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Looking forward to your answers.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>>> Jeroen Baten
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
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>>>>>> Netherlands
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>>>>>
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>>>>   _|_/_| \__)              | Molenwindsingel 46, 4105 HK, Culemborg, the
>>>> Netherlands
>>>
>>>
>>> --
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>>
>>


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Re: Can somebody give me a hint please?

Maarten Deen
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What kind of copyright infringement are you talking about? Jeroen wants
to know what city it is. How can this possibly be a copyright
infringment and why should he not use the image?

Maarten

On 2018-06-20 15:00, Milo van der Linden wrote:

> Screenshots from google maps infringe copyright. I advice oyu not to
> use it.
>
> 2018-06-19 10:43 GMT+02:00 Jeroen Baten <[hidden email]>:
>>
>> Nope, unfortunately it is clearly a screenshot taken from google maps.
>>
>> Op 19-06-18 om 10:43 schreef Tim Frey:
>>> Hi Jeroen,
>>>
>>> when it was taken on a mobile, then you have a high likelihood that
>>> the picture has exif geo tags...
>>> Do you think that this is the case?
>>>
>>> Best
>>> Tim
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>> Von: Jeroen Baten <[hidden email]>
>>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 19. Juni 2018 10:35
>>> An: [hidden email]
>>> Betreff: [OSM-talk] Can somebody give me a hint please?
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> This is a newbie question:
>>> so I have an aerial photo of a part of central France but I don't
>>> know the exact location.
>>> I know it is max 10 minutes from a city.
>>> I want to find the place on the map.
>>> My photo shows two roads in an angle.
>>> Is there a way I can use to locate where this is?
>>> Some sort of low level GIS query maybe?
>>>
>>> Looking forward to your answers.
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>> Jeroen Baten
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
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>>  _|_/_| \__)              | Molenwindsingel 46, 4105 HK, Culemborg,
>> the
>> Netherlands
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Re: Can somebody give me a hint please?

Jeroen Baten
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That is an excellent idea! How do I find somebody with some areal
experience around Boussac?

Op 20-06-18 om 16:00 schreef Oleksiy Muzalyev:

> I do not know how to do it via query. In fact, I think it would be a
> hard problem.
>
> However, since it is 10 minutes from a city a medical helicopter pilot
> or a recreational light aircraft pilot may recognize it. People are very
> good at recognizing patterns. I heard the SNCF, the French railway, uses
> RPAS to survey its network [1].
>
> For example, I think I could probably recognize an area around a town
> where I live from an aerial image, since being an amateur RPAS pilot I
> saw it quite a lot from the air.
>
> [1] https://www.sncf-reseau.fr/en/about/strategy/drones-serving-industry
>
> brgds
> O.
>
> On 20.06.18 15:26, Jeroen Baten wrote:
>> Correct, but they are talking in the FAQ about reuse of the data on
>> which Google has a license.
>>
>> That is different from getting a photo of google maps attached in an
>> email.
>>
>> It is just a different kind of copyright.
>>
>> Still, it seems nobody can give me a hint/direction how to solve my
>> problem.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Jeroen
>>
>> Op 20-06-18 om 15:22 schreef Milo van der Linden:
>>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FAQ#Why_don.27t_you_just_use_Google_Maps.2Fwhoever_for_your_data.3F
>>>
>>>
>>> 2018-06-20 15:21 GMT+02:00 Milo van der Linden <[hidden email]>:
>>>> Still. I strongly advice you not to use it.
>>>>
>>>> 2018-06-20 15:13 GMT+02:00 Jeroen Baten <[hidden email]>:
>>>>> I did not make it. Some French estate agent did :-).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Op 20-06-18 om 15:00 schreef Milo van der Linden:
>>>>>> Screenshots from google maps infringe copyright. I advice oyu not
>>>>>> to use it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2018-06-19 10:43 GMT+02:00 Jeroen Baten <[hidden email]>:
>>>>>>> Nope, unfortunately it is clearly a screenshot taken from google
>>>>>>> maps.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Op 19-06-18 om 10:43 schreef Tim Frey:
>>>>>>>> Hi Jeroen,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> when it was taken on a mobile, then you have a high likelihood
>>>>>>>> that the picture has exif geo tags...
>>>>>>>> Do you think that this is the case?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>>> Tim
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>>>>>>> Von: Jeroen Baten <[hidden email]>
>>>>>>>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 19. Juni 2018 10:35
>>>>>>>> An: [hidden email]
>>>>>>>> Betreff: [OSM-talk] Can somebody give me a hint please?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This is a newbie question:
>>>>>>>> so I have an aerial photo of a part of central France but I
>>>>>>>> don't know the exact location.
>>>>>>>> I know it is max 10 minutes from a city.
>>>>>>>> I want to find the place on the map.
>>>>>>>> My photo shows two roads in an angle.
>>>>>>>> Is there a way I can use to locate where this is?
>>>>>>>> Some sort of low level GIS query maybe?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Looking forward to your answers.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>>>> Jeroen Baten
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Jeroen Baten              | EMAIL :  [hidden email]
>>>>>>>   ____  _  __              | web   :  www.i2rs.nl
>>>>>>>    |  )|_)(_               | tel   :  +31 (0)345 - 75 26 28
>>>>>>>   _|_/_| \__)              | Molenwindsingel 46, 4105 HK,
>>>>>>> Culemborg, the
>>>>>>> Netherlands
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> talk mailing list
>>>>>>> [hidden email]
>>>>>>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Jeroen Baten              | EMAIL :  [hidden email]
>>>>>   ____  _  __              | web   :  www.i2rs.nl
>>>>>    |  )|_)(_               | tel   :  +31 (0)345 - 75 26 28
>>>>>   _|_/_| \__)              | Molenwindsingel 46, 4105 HK,
>>>>> Culemborg, the
>>>>> Netherlands
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Milo van der Linden
>>>> web: dogodigi
>>>> tel: +31-6-16598808
>>>
>>>

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Re: Can somebody give me a hint please?

Oleksiy Muzalyev
I found a small airfield close to Boussac with this tool:
http://ausleuchtung.ch.local/travel_pack/?lat=46.3561695279802&lon=2.5460815429687504&zm=12&rd=10&sk=aeroway&sv=aerodrome&t=0

At this airfield there is an air-club:
https://www.facebook.com/Les-Ailes-Montlu%C3%A7onnaises-273169482716262/

If it is another Boussac (there are several in  France) just use this
tool to find a small airfield with an air-club at it. Then you may try
to write to people, to the light aircraft pilots of an air-club, asking
them the question.

These people may know as their look very attentively at the ground below
when they fly for numerous reasons. The hard part could be to convince
them to assist, for this you may try to explain them why you need this info.

brgds
O.



On 20.06.18 17:35, Jeroen Baten wrote:

> That is an excellent idea! How do I find somebody with some areal
> experience around Boussac?
>
> Op 20-06-18 om 16:00 schreef Oleksiy Muzalyev:
>> I do not know how to do it via query. In fact, I think it would be a
>> hard problem.
>>
>> However, since it is 10 minutes from a city a medical helicopter pilot
>> or a recreational light aircraft pilot may recognize it. People are very
>> good at recognizing patterns. I heard the SNCF, the French railway, uses
>> RPAS to survey its network [1].
>>
>> For example, I think I could probably recognize an area around a town
>> where I live from an aerial image, since being an amateur RPAS pilot I
>> saw it quite a lot from the air.
>>
>> [1] https://www.sncf-reseau.fr/en/about/strategy/drones-serving-industry
>>
>> brgds
>> O.
>>
>> On 20.06.18 15:26, Jeroen Baten wrote:
>>> Correct, but they are talking in the FAQ about reuse of the data on
>>> which Google has a license.
>>>
>>> That is different from getting a photo of google maps attached in an
>>> email.
>>>
>>> It is just a different kind of copyright.
>>>
>>> Still, it seems nobody can give me a hint/direction how to solve my
>>> problem.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Jeroen
>>>
>>> Op 20-06-18 om 15:22 schreef Milo van der Linden:
>>>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FAQ#Why_don.27t_you_just_use_Google_Maps.2Fwhoever_for_your_data.3F
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2018-06-20 15:21 GMT+02:00 Milo van der Linden <[hidden email]>:
>>>>> Still. I strongly advice you not to use it.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2018-06-20 15:13 GMT+02:00 Jeroen Baten <[hidden email]>:
>>>>>> I did not make it. Some French estate agent did :-).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Op 20-06-18 om 15:00 schreef Milo van der Linden:
>>>>>>> Screenshots from google maps infringe copyright. I advice oyu not
>>>>>>> to use it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2018-06-19 10:43 GMT+02:00 Jeroen Baten <[hidden email]>:
>>>>>>>> Nope, unfortunately it is clearly a screenshot taken from google
>>>>>>>> maps.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Op 19-06-18 om 10:43 schreef Tim Frey:
>>>>>>>>> Hi Jeroen,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> when it was taken on a mobile, then you have a high likelihood
>>>>>>>>> that the picture has exif geo tags...
>>>>>>>>> Do you think that this is the case?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>>>> Tim
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>>>>>>>> Von: Jeroen Baten <[hidden email]>
>>>>>>>>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 19. Juni 2018 10:35
>>>>>>>>> An: [hidden email]
>>>>>>>>> Betreff: [OSM-talk] Can somebody give me a hint please?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This is a newbie question:
>>>>>>>>> so I have an aerial photo of a part of central France but I
>>>>>>>>> don't know the exact location.
>>>>>>>>> I know it is max 10 minutes from a city.
>>>>>>>>> I want to find the place on the map.
>>>>>>>>> My photo shows two roads in an angle.
>>>>>>>>> Is there a way I can use to locate where this is?
>>>>>>>>> Some sort of low level GIS query maybe?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Looking forward to your answers.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>>>>> Jeroen Baten
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Jeroen Baten              | EMAIL :  [hidden email]
>>>>>>>>    ____  _  __              | web   :  www.i2rs.nl
>>>>>>>>     |  )|_)(_               | tel   :  +31 (0)345 - 75 26 28
>>>>>>>>    _|_/_| \__)              | Molenwindsingel 46, 4105 HK,
>>>>>>>> Culemborg, the
>>>>>>>> Netherlands
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>> talk mailing list
>>>>>>>> [hidden email]
>>>>>>>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Jeroen Baten              | EMAIL :  [hidden email]
>>>>>>    ____  _  __              | web   :  www.i2rs.nl
>>>>>>     |  )|_)(_               | tel   :  +31 (0)345 - 75 26 28
>>>>>>    _|_/_| \__)              | Molenwindsingel 46, 4105 HK,
>>>>>> Culemborg, the
>>>>>> Netherlands
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Milo van der Linden
>>>>> web: dogodigi
>>>>> tel: +31-6-16598808
>>>>


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Re: Can somebody give me a hint please?

Oleksiy Muzalyev
Please, correct the link in my previous message:
http://ausleuchtung.ch/travel_pack/?lat=46.3561695279802&lon=2.5460815429687504&zm=12&rd=10&sk=aeroway&sv=aerodrome&t=0

On 20.06.18 18:02, Oleksiy Muzalyev wrote:

> I found a small airfield close to Boussac with this tool:
> http://ausleuchtung.ch.local/travel_pack/?lat=46.3561695279802&lon=2.5460815429687504&zm=12&rd=10&sk=aeroway&sv=aerodrome&t=0
>
> At this airfield there is an air-club:
> https://www.facebook.com/Les-Ailes-Montlu%C3%A7onnaises-273169482716262/
>
> If it is another Boussac (there are several in  France) just use this
> tool to find a small airfield with an air-club at it. Then you may try
> to write to people, to the light aircraft pilots of an air-club,
> asking them the question.
>
> These people may know as their look very attentively at the ground
> below when they fly for numerous reasons. The hard part could be to
> convince them to assist, for this you may try to explain them why you
> need this info.
>
> brgds
> O.
>
>
>
> On 20.06.18 17:35, Jeroen Baten wrote:
>> That is an excellent idea! How do I find somebody with some areal
>> experience around Boussac?
>>
>> Op 20-06-18 om 16:00 schreef Oleksiy Muzalyev:
>>> I do not know how to do it via query. In fact, I think it would be a
>>> hard problem.
>>>
>>> However, since it is 10 minutes from a city a medical helicopter pilot
>>> or a recreational light aircraft pilot may recognize it. People are
>>> very
>>> good at recognizing patterns. I heard the SNCF, the French railway,
>>> uses
>>> RPAS to survey its network [1].
>>>
>>> For example, I think I could probably recognize an area around a town
>>> where I live from an aerial image, since being an amateur RPAS pilot I
>>> saw it quite a lot from the air.
>>>
>>> [1]
>>> https://www.sncf-reseau.fr/en/about/strategy/drones-serving-industry
>>>
>>> brgds
>>> O.
>>>
>>> On 20.06.18 15:26, Jeroen Baten wrote:
>>>> Correct, but they are talking in the FAQ about reuse of the data on
>>>> which Google has a license.
>>>>
>>>> That is different from getting a photo of google maps attached in an
>>>> email.
>>>>
>>>> It is just a different kind of copyright.
>>>>
>>>> Still, it seems nobody can give me a hint/direction how to solve my
>>>> problem.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Jeroen
>>>>
>>>> Op 20-06-18 om 15:22 schreef Milo van der Linden:
>>>>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FAQ#Why_don.27t_you_just_use_Google_Maps.2Fwhoever_for_your_data.3F 
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2018-06-20 15:21 GMT+02:00 Milo van der Linden <[hidden email]>:
>>>>>> Still. I strongly advice you not to use it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2018-06-20 15:13 GMT+02:00 Jeroen Baten <[hidden email]>:
>>>>>>> I did not make it. Some French estate agent did :-).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Op 20-06-18 om 15:00 schreef Milo van der Linden:
>>>>>>>> Screenshots from google maps infringe copyright. I advice oyu not
>>>>>>>> to use it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2018-06-19 10:43 GMT+02:00 Jeroen Baten <[hidden email]>:
>>>>>>>>> Nope, unfortunately it is clearly a screenshot taken from google
>>>>>>>>> maps.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Op 19-06-18 om 10:43 schreef Tim Frey:
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Jeroen,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> when it was taken on a mobile, then you have a high likelihood
>>>>>>>>>> that the picture has exif geo tags...
>>>>>>>>>> Do you think that this is the case?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>>>>> Tim
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>>>>>>>>> Von: Jeroen Baten <[hidden email]>
>>>>>>>>>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 19. Juni 2018 10:35
>>>>>>>>>> An: [hidden email]
>>>>>>>>>> Betreff: [OSM-talk] Can somebody give me a hint please?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This is a newbie question:
>>>>>>>>>> so I have an aerial photo of a part of central France but I
>>>>>>>>>> don't know the exact location.
>>>>>>>>>> I know it is max 10 minutes from a city.
>>>>>>>>>> I want to find the place on the map.
>>>>>>>>>> My photo shows two roads in an angle.
>>>>>>>>>> Is there a way I can use to locate where this is?
>>>>>>>>>> Some sort of low level GIS query maybe?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Looking forward to your answers.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>>>>>> Jeroen Baten
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Jeroen Baten              | EMAIL : [hidden email]
>>>>>>>>>    ____  _  __              | web   :  www.i2rs.nl
>>>>>>>>>     |  )|_)(_               | tel   :  +31 (0)345 - 75 26 28
>>>>>>>>>    _|_/_| \__)              | Molenwindsingel 46, 4105 HK,
>>>>>>>>> Culemborg, the
>>>>>>>>> Netherlands
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>> talk mailing list
>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]
>>>>>>>>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Jeroen Baten              | EMAIL :  [hidden email]
>>>>>>>    ____  _  __              | web   :  www.i2rs.nl
>>>>>>>     |  )|_)(_               | tel   :  +31 (0)345 - 75 26 28
>>>>>>>    _|_/_| \__)              | Molenwindsingel 46, 4105 HK,
>>>>>>> Culemborg, the
>>>>>>> Netherlands
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Milo van der Linden
>>>>>> web: dogodigi
>>>>>> tel: +31-6-16598808
>>>>>
>
>
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Re: Can somebody give me a hint please?

Jeroen Baten
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Thank you so much!
I will follow up on this.

Kind regards,
Jeroen Baten

Op 20-06-18 om 18:02 schreef Oleksiy Muzalyev:

> I found a small airfield close to Boussac with this tool:
> http://ausleuchtung.ch.local/travel_pack/?lat=46.3561695279802&lon=2.5460815429687504&zm=12&rd=10&sk=aeroway&sv=aerodrome&t=0
>
>
> At this airfield there is an air-club:
> https://www.facebook.com/Les-Ailes-Montlu%C3%A7onnaises-273169482716262/
>
> If it is another Boussac (there are several in  France) just use this
> tool to find a small airfield with an air-club at it. Then you may try
> to write to people, to the light aircraft pilots of an air-club, asking
> them the question.
>
> These people may know as their look very attentively at the ground below
> when they fly for numerous reasons. The hard part could be to convince
> them to assist, for this you may try to explain them why you need this
> info.
>
> brgds
> O.
>
>
>
> On 20.06.18 17:35, Jeroen Baten wrote:
>> That is an excellent idea! How do I find somebody with some areal
>> experience around Boussac?
>>
>> Op 20-06-18 om 16:00 schreef Oleksiy Muzalyev:
>>> I do not know how to do it via query. In fact, I think it would be a
>>> hard problem.
>>>
>>> However, since it is 10 minutes from a city a medical helicopter pilot
>>> or a recreational light aircraft pilot may recognize it. People are very
>>> good at recognizing patterns. I heard the SNCF, the French railway, uses
>>> RPAS to survey its network [1].
>>>
>>> For example, I think I could probably recognize an area around a town
>>> where I live from an aerial image, since being an amateur RPAS pilot I
>>> saw it quite a lot from the air.
>>>
>>> [1] https://www.sncf-reseau.fr/en/about/strategy/drones-serving-industry
>>>
>>> brgds
>>> O.
>>>
>>> On 20.06.18 15:26, Jeroen Baten wrote:
>>>> Correct, but they are talking in the FAQ about reuse of the data on
>>>> which Google has a license.
>>>>
>>>> That is different from getting a photo of google maps attached in an
>>>> email.
>>>>
>>>> It is just a different kind of copyright.
>>>>
>>>> Still, it seems nobody can give me a hint/direction how to solve my
>>>> problem.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Jeroen
>>>>
>>>> Op 20-06-18 om 15:22 schreef Milo van der Linden:
>>>>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FAQ#Why_don.27t_you_just_use_Google_Maps.2Fwhoever_for_your_data.3F
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2018-06-20 15:21 GMT+02:00 Milo van der Linden <[hidden email]>:
>>>>>> Still. I strongly advice you not to use it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2018-06-20 15:13 GMT+02:00 Jeroen Baten <[hidden email]>:
>>>>>>> I did not make it. Some French estate agent did :-).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Op 20-06-18 om 15:00 schreef Milo van der Linden:
>>>>>>>> Screenshots from google maps infringe copyright. I advice oyu not
>>>>>>>> to use it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2018-06-19 10:43 GMT+02:00 Jeroen Baten <[hidden email]>:
>>>>>>>>> Nope, unfortunately it is clearly a screenshot taken from google
>>>>>>>>> maps.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Op 19-06-18 om 10:43 schreef Tim Frey:
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Jeroen,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> when it was taken on a mobile, then you have a high likelihood
>>>>>>>>>> that the picture has exif geo tags...
>>>>>>>>>> Do you think that this is the case?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>>>>> Tim
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>>>>>>>>> Von: Jeroen Baten <[hidden email]>
>>>>>>>>>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 19. Juni 2018 10:35
>>>>>>>>>> An: [hidden email]
>>>>>>>>>> Betreff: [OSM-talk] Can somebody give me a hint please?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This is a newbie question:
>>>>>>>>>> so I have an aerial photo of a part of central France but I
>>>>>>>>>> don't know the exact location.
>>>>>>>>>> I know it is max 10 minutes from a city.
>>>>>>>>>> I want to find the place on the map.
>>>>>>>>>> My photo shows two roads in an angle.
>>>>>>>>>> Is there a way I can use to locate where this is?
>>>>>>>>>> Some sort of low level GIS query maybe?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Looking forward to your answers.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>>>>>> Jeroen Baten
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>>> Jeroen Baten              | EMAIL :  [hidden email]
>>>>>>>>>    ____  _  __              | web   :  www.i2rs.nl
>>>>>>>>>     |  )|_)(_               | tel   :  +31 (0)345 - 75 26 28
>>>>>>>>>    _|_/_| \__)              | Molenwindsingel 46, 4105 HK,
>>>>>>>>> Culemborg, the
>>>>>>>>> Netherlands
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>> talk mailing list
>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]
>>>>>>>>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>> Jeroen Baten              | EMAIL :  [hidden email]
>>>>>>>    ____  _  __              | web   :  www.i2rs.nl
>>>>>>>     |  )|_)(_               | tel   :  +31 (0)345 - 75 26 28
>>>>>>>    _|_/_| \__)              | Molenwindsingel 46, 4105 HK,
>>>>>>> Culemborg, the
>>>>>>> Netherlands
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> Milo van der Linden
>>>>>> web: dogodigi
>>>>>> tel: +31-6-16598808
>>>>>

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