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Changing wikipedia links

Neil Matthews
Looks like an automated edit - albeit a human curated one - without
discussion, certainly on Talk-GB.

Seems to be moving wikipedia links for branded stores to
brand:wikipedia, e.g. https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/63071623

My concern is  changing the behaviour of a well-known tag (worldwide).

Cheers,

Neil

P.S. presumably brand:wikimedia will be next?

       





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Re: Changing wikipedia links

Dan S
Op ma 1 okt. 2018 om 23:15 schreef Neil Matthews <[hidden email]>:
> Looks like an automated edit - albeit a human curated one - without
> discussion, certainly on Talk-GB.

The "imports" mailing list would be the right place to discuss it, if
it's a bulk edit (is it?). It doesn't seem to have GB-specific
implications for this list IMHO (even though this particular changeset
is of course within gb).

> Seems to be moving wikipedia links for branded stores to
> brand:wikipedia, e.g. https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/63071623
>
> My concern is  changing the behaviour of a well-known tag (worldwide).

It's pretty well-established that wikipedia=* is supposed to reference
the wikipedia article about the feature itself, not the operator. The
wiki page has, for more than 5 years, given the guidance: "only
provide links to articles which are 'about the feature'. A link from
St Paul's cathedral in London to an article about St Pauls is fine. A
link from a bus depot to the company that operates it is not." So
irrespective of how the edit was done - in what sense is this
"changing the behaviour of a well-known tag"?

Best
Dan

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Re: Changing wikipedia links

Andy Townsend
On 01/10/2018 23:39, Dan S wrote:
> Op ma 1 okt. 2018 om 23:15 schreef Neil Matthews <[hidden email]>:
>> Looks like an automated edit - albeit a human curated one - without
>> discussion, certainly on Talk-GB.
> The "imports" mailing list would be the right place to discuss it, if
> it's a bulk edit (is it?). It doesn't seem to have GB-specific
> implications for this list IMHO (even though this particular changeset
> is of course within gb).
>

For completeness, this sort of thing has been discussed on "imports" -
see
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2017-September/thread.html#78902 
and the subsequent messages.  Quite a lot of that thread is about other
things (as tends to happen) but it has been discussed before.

In this particular case as Dan says brand:wikipedia looks like a more
correct tag than wikipedia.

Best Regards,

Andy


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Re: Changing wikipedia links

Neil Matthews
Thanks for the info gents - I see more information has finally been
added to the wiki - albeit a year after discussion on imports :-)

Cheers,
Neil

On 02/10/2018 08:09, [hidden email] wrote:

> On 01/10/2018 23:39, Dan S wrote:
>> Op ma 1 okt. 2018 om 23:15 schreef Neil Matthews <[hidden email]>:
>>> Looks like an automated edit - albeit a human curated one - without
>>> discussion, certainly on Talk-GB.
>> The "imports" mailing list would be the right place to discuss it, if
>> it's a bulk edit (is it?). It doesn't seem to have GB-specific
>> implications for this list IMHO (even though this particular changeset
>> is of course within gb).
>>
>
> For completeness, this sort of thing has been discussed on "imports" -
> see
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2017-September/thread.html#78902
> and the subsequent messages.  Quite a lot of that thread is about
> other things (as tends to happen) but it has been discussed before.
>
> In this particular case as Dan says brand:wikipedia looks like a more
> correct tag than wikipedia.

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