On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 09:52:06PM -0700, Bryce
> Note that just because you can collect some data,
does not make it a good
> idea to put in OSM. Maintenance is harder than
collection: and who's going
> to go back three years after the HOT event and
same is even worse with other data like phone=*
Phone is an interesting one.
I view it as helpful.
When the phone number or website change registration,
it's a flat that the OSM data is out of date.
In my website tag checker, I load the website given and
look for the phone number.
What it kicks out primarily are lots of restaurants
that are in OSM but out of business.
The damage stuff however has no such cross check. It
will likely rot in the OSM database,
getting more and more unverifiable.
If the 'stuff' was entered as functional at first .. why is it
verifiable then and unverifiable simply because it has changed to
Because it cannot be check remotely is no reason to decry the entry
of the data.
I think that stuff that cannot be verified by web searches is
actually more valuable .. because it cannot be easily found by other
Not all business maintain a website .. they may start one to see
what it is like .. but drop it after some time. That does not mean
they are out of business.
On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 5:02 AM,
Blake Girardot <[hidden email]>
The intention of the damage:event=* or maybe
disaster:event=* tag doesn't have much to do with
assigning causation, and has more to do with tag
maintenance. We want to be able to run projects that get
objects that were tagged with an event related tag to
review, revise or remove them.
But why put that node/way status in the OSM dataset
itself, rather than in a HOT tasking manager.
Because it become available to others .. like the government/local
authorities who may be in charge of repairs?
There is an organization
already tracking crowd-sourced reports of needed repairs, SeeClickFix. I
have used this to report issues such as blocked street drains. The local
Public Works department monitors these reports and marks them closed once
the needed repairs have been done.