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Feature Proposal - Voting - (midwife)

David Picard
The vote is open for :
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/midwife

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Re: Feature Proposal - Voting - (midwife)

David Bannon-2
David, I am very sorry to only comment after you have gone to the vote,
very rude of me !

But I have been away, quite remote and very poor internet access, big
backlog of unread mail.

David, my partner is a midwife but of the "specialist nurse" variety.
What concerns us is how this tag will be used in parts of the world that
have a different midwife model. Here in Australia, midwives generally
work from, typically, hospitals or clinics and offer a reduced range of
services.

I think some advice needs to be given in the proposal on how to use it
in places that don't fit your description. Either

* "don't use it" or

* "use it but map users need be aware that services may not be as
described."

I suspect the first is a better option.

David

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David Picard
Hi,

So, my description is too specific ? What if I just drop the following
sentence ? It is not really meaningful, anyway.
"In some countries, like France, a midwife is a profession on its own,
not a specialized nurse like e.g. in the U.S.".

Also, about rendering : here in France, midwives in hospitals/clinics
usually wear a pink suit. So, I guess the doctor symbol could be used if
changed from red to pink. What do you think ?

Cheers,
David.

Le 23/08/2016 02:02, David Bannon a écrit :

> David, I am very sorry to only comment after you have gone to the vote,
> very rude of me !
>
> But I have been away, quite remote and very poor internet access, big
> backlog of unread mail.
>
> David, my partner is a midwife but of the "specialist nurse" variety.
> What concerns us is how this tag will be used in parts of the world that
> have a different midwife model. Here in Australia, midwives generally
> work from, typically, hospitals or clinics and offer a reduced range of
> services.
>
> I think some advice needs to be given in the proposal on how to use it
> in places that don't fit your description. Either
>
> * "don't use it" or
>
> * "use it but map users need be aware that services may not be as
> described."
>
> I suspect the first is a better option.
>
> David
>
> On 23/08/16 06:29, David Picard wrote:
>> The vote is open for :
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/midwife
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> Il giorno 25 ago 2016, alle ore 22:46, David Picard <[hidden email]> ha scritto:
>
> So, my description is too specific ? What if I just drop the following sentence ? It is not really meaningful, anyway.
> "In some countries, like France, a midwife is a profession on its own, not a specialized nurse like e.g. in the U.S.".


yes, remove anything not needed. Examples often are counterproductive, because people tend to generalize them, and in this case it doesn't really matter for osm mapping whether your country sees them as specialized nurses or as a profession on its own, how much they earn or how long you have to study etc. You will tag a midwife (s office? practice?) when they can be considered midwifes according to the situation in your country.


>
> Also, about rendering : here in France, midwives in hospitals/clinics usually wear a pink suit. So, I guess the doctor symbol could be used if changed from red to pink. What do you think ?


-1, this is likely specific to France and will not be understood elsewhere


cheers,
Martin
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David Picard
Hi,

I removed over specific text about the country. The description of
services does not exclude anything (like give birth).

Cheers.


Le 26/08/2016 00:44, Martin Koppenhoefer a écrit :

>
>
> sent from a phone
>
>> Il giorno 25 ago 2016, alle ore 22:46, David Picard <[hidden email]> ha scritto:
>>
>> So, my description is too specific ? What if I just drop the following sentence ? It is not really meaningful, anyway.
>> "In some countries, like France, a midwife is a profession on its own, not a specialized nurse like e.g. in the U.S.".
>
>
> yes, remove anything not needed. Examples often are counterproductive, because people tend to generalize them, and in this case it doesn't really matter for osm mapping whether your country sees them as specialized nurses or as a profession on its own, how much they earn or how long you have to study etc. You will tag a midwife (s office? practice?) when they can be considered midwifes according to the situation in your country.
>
>
>>
>> Also, about rendering : here in France, midwives in hospitals/clinics usually wear a pink suit. So, I guess the doctor symbol could be used if changed from red to pink. What do you think ?
>
>
> -1, this is likely specific to France and will not be understood elsewhere
>
>
> cheers,
> Martin
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