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Nick Bolten Feature Proposal - crossing=marked – https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/crossing%3Dmarked Hello, fellow tagging enthusiasts! At long last, and after many discuss... Loading... dieterdreist sent from a phone > On 7. May 2019, at 22:57, Nick Bolten <nbolten@...> wrote: > > One of the primary confusions is the "u... Loading... Nick Bolten > they are also intended to mean: not controlled by a traffic light (while „marked“ likely would include traffic light crossings) Yes, but ... Loading... Paul Allen On Thu, 9 May 2019 at 23:26, Nick Bolten <nbolten@...> wrote: > > Yes, but a traffic light for whom? I've seen mappers who assume ... Loading... Nick Bolten This all makes sense, but the question is: what does crossing=traffic_lights mean given these contexts? There are at least 3 types of lights and... Loading... Paul Allen On Fri, 10 May 2019 at 19:27, Nick Bolten <nbolten@...> wrote: > This all makes sense, but the question is: what does > crossing=t... Loading... Nick Bolten I still don't know when you think we should use crossing=traffic_signals... Imagine you're outside the UK. Pelican signals don't exist. No anim... Loading... Paul Allen On Fri, 10 May 2019 at 21:03, Nick Bolten <nbolten@...> wrote: > I still don't know when you think we should use crossing=traffic_sign... Loading... Nick Bolten >> - A crossing might be marked on the ground > Are there traffic signals which control BOTH traffic and pedestrians? If so, > c... Loading... Paul Allen On Fri, 10 May 2019 at 23:59, Nick Bolten <nbolten@...> wrote: > >> - A crossing might be marked on the ground > > > ... Loading... Nick Bolten > I would not expect to see something like that, in any of its regional variations (green walking person/red stationary person in much of Euro... Loading... Paul Allen On Sat, 11 May 2019 at 01:09, Nick Bolten <nbolten@...> wrote: > > I would not expect to see something like that, in any of its reg... Loading... Nick Bolten > If the light is purely a warning to both traffic and pedestrians, then it's not crossing=traffic_signals. If it controls both traffic and p... Loading... dieterdreist sent from a phone > On 12. May 2019, at 21:27, Nick Bolten <nbolten@...> wrote: > > Regarding an "uncontrolled pedestrian ... Loading... Kevin Kenny-3 This discussion is leaving me pretty bewildered. Sometimes my bewilderment can be alleviated by considering concrete examples. On my walk yester... Loading... Nick Bolten I agree that it's very confuddled. I'm going to start a new thread soon after I make some updates to the proposal, primarily for clarity and cov... Loading... osm.tagging Forgot that part: > On my walk yesterday, other than the implied crossing at every > intersection (but see "don't map local law")... Loading... Graeme Fitzpatrick On Tue, 14 May 2019 at 05:10, <osm.tagging@...> wrote: I must admit that I only map crossings when they are between formed footpaths eg ... Loading... osm.tagging Haven’t checked if it shows up as an error, but technically, the grass on each side is the “sidewalk”, and it is simply a shortcoming of the curre... Loading... Warin On 14/05/19 17:14, osm.tagging@... wrote: > > Haven’t checked if it shows up as an error, but technically, the grass > on each side i... Loading... Graeme Fitzpatrick On Tue, 14 May 2019 at 17:23, Warin <61sundowner@...> wrote: > On 14/05/19 17:14, osm.tagging@... wrote: > > Haven’t checked i... Loading... Tagging mailing list When mapping in Japan, I map all sidewalks. as a Califorinian, where sidewalks are common and usually follow the road alignment at all times, I un... Loading... voschix On Tue, 14 May 2019 at 05:10, <osm.tagging@...> wrote: > > I must admit that I only map crossings when they are between formed >... Loading... Graeme Fitzpatrick On Tue, 14 May 2019 at 18:38, Volker Schmidt <voschix@...> wrote: > NB: This crossing is not mapped correctly in OSM as there is no co... Loading... dieterdreist sent from a phone On 14. May 2019, at 02:24, Graeme Fitzpatrick <graemefitz1@...> wrote: >> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attac... Loading... osm.tagging People do generally walk on this “grass” sidewalk. From: Martin Koppenhoefer <dieterdreist@...> Sent: Tuesday, 14 May 2019 16:04 ... Loading... dieterdreist sent from a phone > On 14. May 2019, at 09:16, <osm.tagging@...> <osm.tagging@...> wrote: > > People do generally walk on... Loading... osm.tagging > 1. Combined foot/cycle crossing - a side path from a combined > foot/cycleway onto a very lightly trafficked suburban street. Marked > ... Loading... dieterdreist sent from a phone > On 12. May 2019, at 21:27, Nick Bolten <nbolten@...> wrote: > > It's easy to sympathize: we've got a tag ab... Loading... dieterdreist sent from a phone > On 11. May 2019, at 00:57, Nick Bolten <nbolten@...> wrote: > > If only one or the other, it is not a cross... Loading... Nick Bolten > you have still to show us a crossing with traffic lights only for pedestrians :) Having trouble finding a good picture (I'll keep looking... Loading... dieterdreist sent from a phone > On 11. May 2019, at 01:42, Nick Bolten <nbolten@...> wrote: > > Having trouble finding a good picture (I'll... Loading... Nick Bolten > hm, would you consider these traffic lights, or not? It basically depends on this interpretation whether you should use a different tag or w... Loading... TonyS Do we map the pedestrian aspects of traffic light controlled crossings? i.e the Walk/DontWalk or the Green/Red figures? As a pedestrian I have u... Loading... Paul Allen On Sun, 12 May 2019 at 10:47, Tony Shield <tony.shield999@...> wrote: > Do we map the pedestrian aspects of traffic light controlled c... Loading... Paul Allen On Sat, 11 May 2019 at 00:44, Nick Bolten <nbolten@...> wrote: > Having trouble finding a good picture (I'll keep looking), but there ... Loading... Nick Bolten > I'd still classify that as crossing=traffic_signals. Ah, now I'm super confused. I would've sworn that you'd recommend mapping that as un... Loading... marc marc Le 07.05.19 à 22:57, Nick Bolten a écrit : > - crossing=* values are not truly orthogonal and this needs to be > addressed. e.g., "u... Loading... yo paseopor I don't know why we need a new tag scheme. I remember my explanation of the question and the adaptation of the possibilities. I repeat them he... Loading... Nick Bolten > I don't know why we need a new tag scheme. Please check out my proposal, as I've laid out several reasons. As someone who has personally ... Loading... yo paseopor I have checked out your proposal...and I don't know what is the difference with a crossing=marked (yours) and a crossing=uncontrolled (in OSM) I... Loading... Nick Bolten > I have checked out your proposal...and I don't know what is the difference with a crossing=marked (yours) and a crossing=uncontrolled (in O... Loading... Nick Bolten > If there is not any control of the crossing...yes otherwise should be crossing=traffic_signals or supervised=yes as you can read in the wiki... Loading... yo paseopor No, don't be innocent If you search traffic light you will see the same thing, not any strange light in relation with traffic itself. https:/... Loading... Nick Bolten > If you search traffic light you will see the same thing, not any strange light in relation with traffic itself. https://www.google.com/sear... Loading... dieterdreist sent from a phone > On 10. May 2019, at 23:17, yo paseopor <yopaseopor@...> wrote: > > A mark is not a control. A sign is not a... Loading... Paul Allen On Thu, 9 May 2019 at 23:46, Nick Bolten <nbolten@...> wrote: > > I don't know what it means for a crossing to be supervised, >... Loading... Graeme Fitzpatrick On Thu, 9 May 2019 at 03:38, yo paseopor <yopaseopor@...> wrote: > zebra is marked but uncontrolled > Maybe (quite possibly!) I... Loading... sdoerr On 08/05/2019 22:48, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > I thought that controlled means that their is signage / indication of > some form that say... Loading... Nick Bolten This subthread is doing a good job of showing why "uncontrolled" is opaque to users and mappers, as it is primarily an issue of local l... Loading... Clifford Snow On Wed, May 8, 2019 at 2:48 PM Graeme Fitzpatrick <graemefitz1@...> wrote: > > Now we may (yet again!) be getting caught up in th... Loading... marc marc Le 08.05.19 à 19:37, yo paseopor a écrit : > zebra is marked but uncontrolled (if it is controlled you can use other > value) but if y... Loading... Nick Bolten > I suggest that you read the discussion I started in December about crossing=zebra because it is the main cause of the current situation. ... Loading... « Return to Tagging  |  1 view|%1 views

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