Nick Bolten
Feature Proposal - crossing=marked –
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/crossing%3Dmarked
Hello, fellow tagging enthusiasts! At long last, and after many discuss...
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dieterdreist
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> On 7. May 2019, at 22:57, Nick Bolten <nbolten@...> wrote:
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> One of the primary confusions is the "u...
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Nick Bolten
> they are also intended to mean: not controlled by a traffic light (while
„marked“ likely would include traffic light crossings)
Yes, but ...
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Paul Allen
On Thu, 9 May 2019 at 23:26, Nick Bolten <nbolten@...> wrote:
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> Yes, but a traffic light for whom? I've seen mappers who assume ...
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Nick Bolten
This all makes sense, but the question is: what does
crossing=traffic_lights mean given these contexts? There are at least 3
types of lights and...
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Paul Allen
On Fri, 10 May 2019 at 19:27, Nick Bolten <nbolten@...> wrote:
> This all makes sense, but the question is: what does
> crossing=t...
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Nick Bolten
I still don't know when you think we should use crossing=traffic_signals...
Imagine you're outside the UK. Pelican signals don't exist. No anim...
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Paul Allen
On Fri, 10 May 2019 at 21:03, Nick Bolten <nbolten@...> wrote:
> I still don't know when you think we should use crossing=traffic_sign...
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Nick Bolten
>> - A crossing might be marked on the ground
> Are there traffic signals which control BOTH traffic and pedestrians? If
so,
> c...
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Paul Allen
On Fri, 10 May 2019 at 23:59, Nick Bolten <nbolten@...> wrote:
> >> - A crossing might be marked on the ground
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Nick Bolten
> I would not expect to see something like that, in any of its regional
variations (green walking person/red stationary person in much of Euro...
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Paul Allen
On Sat, 11 May 2019 at 01:09, Nick Bolten <nbolten@...> wrote:
> > I would not expect to see something like that, in any of its reg...
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Nick Bolten
> If the light is purely a warning to both traffic and pedestrians, then
it's not crossing=traffic_signals. If it controls both traffic and
p...
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dieterdreist
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> On 12. May 2019, at 21:27, Nick Bolten <nbolten@...> wrote:
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> Regarding an "uncontrolled pedestrian ...
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Kevin Kenny-3
This discussion is leaving me pretty bewildered.
Sometimes my bewilderment can be alleviated by considering concrete examples.
On my walk yester...
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Nick Bolten
I agree that it's very confuddled. I'm going to start a new thread soon
after I make some updates to the proposal, primarily for clarity and
cov...
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osm.tagging
Forgot that part:
> On my walk yesterday, other than the implied crossing at every
> intersection (but see "don't map local law")...
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Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Tue, 14 May 2019 at 05:10, <osm.tagging@...> wrote:
I must admit that I only map crossings when they are between formed
footpaths eg
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osm.tagging
Haven’t checked if it shows up as an error, but technically, the grass on each side is the “sidewalk”, and it is simply a shortcoming of the curre...
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Warin
On 14/05/19 17:14, osm.tagging@... wrote:
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> Haven’t checked if it shows up as an error, but technically, the grass
> on each side i...
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Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Tue, 14 May 2019 at 17:23, Warin <61sundowner@...> wrote:
> On 14/05/19 17:14, osm.tagging@... wrote:
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> Haven’t checked i...
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Tagging mailing list
When mapping in Japan, I map all sidewalks. as a Califorinian, where sidewalks are common and usually follow the road alignment at all times, I un...
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voschix
On Tue, 14 May 2019 at 05:10, <osm.tagging@...> wrote:
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> I must admit that I only map crossings when they are between formed
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Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Tue, 14 May 2019 at 18:38, Volker Schmidt <voschix@...> wrote:
> NB: This crossing is not mapped correctly in OSM as there is no co...
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dieterdreist
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On 14. May 2019, at 02:24, Graeme Fitzpatrick <graemefitz1@...> wrote:
>> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attac...
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osm.tagging
People do generally walk on this “grass” sidewalk.
From: Martin Koppenhoefer <dieterdreist@...>
Sent: Tuesday, 14 May 2019 16:04
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dieterdreist
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> On 14. May 2019, at 09:16, <osm.tagging@...> <osm.tagging@...> wrote:
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> People do generally walk on...
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osm.tagging
> 1. Combined foot/cycle crossing - a side path from a combined
> foot/cycleway onto a very lightly trafficked suburban street. Marked
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dieterdreist
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> On 12. May 2019, at 21:27, Nick Bolten <nbolten@...> wrote:
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> It's easy to sympathize: we've got a tag ab...
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dieterdreist
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> On 11. May 2019, at 00:57, Nick Bolten <nbolten@...> wrote:
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> If only one or the other, it is not a cross...
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Nick Bolten
> you have still to show us a crossing with traffic lights only for
pedestrians :)
Having trouble finding a good picture (I'll keep looking...
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dieterdreist
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> On 11. May 2019, at 01:42, Nick Bolten <nbolten@...> wrote:
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> Having trouble finding a good picture (I'll...
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Nick Bolten
> hm, would you consider these traffic lights, or not? It basically depends
on this interpretation whether you should use a different tag or w...
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TonyS
Do we map the pedestrian aspects of traffic light controlled crossings?
i.e the Walk/DontWalk or the Green/Red figures?
As a pedestrian I have u...
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Paul Allen
On Sun, 12 May 2019 at 10:47, Tony Shield <tony.shield999@...> wrote:
> Do we map the pedestrian aspects of traffic light controlled c...
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Paul Allen
On Sat, 11 May 2019 at 00:44, Nick Bolten <nbolten@...> wrote:
> Having trouble finding a good picture (I'll keep looking), but there ...
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Nick Bolten
> I'd still classify that as crossing=traffic_signals.
Ah, now I'm super confused. I would've sworn that you'd recommend mapping
that as un...
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Marc M.
Le 07.05.19 à 22:57, Nick Bolten a écrit :
> - crossing=* values are not truly orthogonal and this needs to be
> addressed. e.g., "u...
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yo paseopor
I don't know why we need a new tag scheme.
I remember my explanation of the question and the adaptation of the
possibilities. I repeat them he...
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Nick Bolten
> I don't know why we need a new tag scheme.
Please check out my proposal, as I've laid out several reasons. As someone
who has personally ...
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yo paseopor
I have checked out your proposal...and I don't know what is the difference
with a crossing=marked (yours) and a crossing=uncontrolled (in OSM)
I...
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Nick Bolten
> I have checked out your proposal...and I don't know what is the
difference with a crossing=marked (yours) and a crossing=uncontrolled (in
O...
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Nick Bolten
> If there is not any control of the crossing...yes otherwise should be
crossing=traffic_signals or supervised=yes as you can read in the wiki...
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yo paseopor
No, don't be innocent
If you search traffic light you will see the same thing, not any strange
light in relation with traffic itself.
https:/...
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Nick Bolten
> If you search traffic light you will see the same thing, not any strange
light in relation with traffic itself.
https://www.google.com/sear...
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dieterdreist
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> On 10. May 2019, at 23:17, yo paseopor <yopaseopor@...> wrote:
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> A mark is not a control. A sign is not a...
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Paul Allen
On Thu, 9 May 2019 at 23:46, Nick Bolten <nbolten@...> wrote:
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> I don't know what it means for a crossing to be supervised,
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Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Thu, 9 May 2019 at 03:38, yo paseopor <yopaseopor@...> wrote:
> zebra is marked but uncontrolled
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Maybe (quite possibly!) I...
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sdoerr
On 08/05/2019 22:48, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:
> I thought that controlled means that their is signage / indication of
> some form that say...
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Nick Bolten
This subthread is doing a good job of showing why "uncontrolled" is opaque
to users and mappers, as it is primarily an issue of local l...
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Clifford Snow
On Wed, May 8, 2019 at 2:48 PM Graeme Fitzpatrick <graemefitz1@...>
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> Now we may (yet again!) be getting caught up in th...
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Marc M.
Le 08.05.19 à 19:37, yo paseopor a écrit :
> zebra is marked but uncontrolled (if it is controlled you can use other
> value)
but if y...
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Nick Bolten
> I suggest that you read the discussion I started in December
about crossing=zebra because it is the main cause of the current situation.
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