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Re: [HOT] iD issues?

Charlotte Wolter
Mike,

        Some updates were made to iD some weeks ago. Apparently, somehow, it made clicking on a feature to select it more difficult. I use Firefox, and usually have to click 3 or 4 times to get an individual item selected.
        I wrote to the iD team about that, and Brian Housel replied, saying that they know about the issue and it is being worked on. Sounded like it had been frustrating them, too.
        I also suggested they make the "automatic scroll" area around the outside edge of the screen smaller. Automatic scrolling can be good, but the scrolling border is about an inch wide now. Sometimes, when I'm doing an edit, it takes off scrolling. To guard against that, I have to stay closer to the center of the screen than usual. Brian thought that was a good idea.
        Of course, they all are volunteers like we are, so it may take them some time to diagnose and fix the issues.

Charlotte



At 03:46 PM 4/17/2017, you wrote:
Update: perhaps it is just coincidence, but iD appears to be fully working in IE, however, I know I have successfully used iD in Chrome in the past.
Mike

On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 4:42 PM, Mike Thompson <[hidden email]> wrote:
I am preparing for a mapathon and am reviewing the instructions for the participants to make sure they are still current and to re familiarize myself with iD as I normally us JOSM. In the iD editor I am able to add and tag new features, but I cannot select existing features in order modify their geometry or their tags, and I cannot get the context menu to appear.  I am using Chrome on Windows. Does anyone have any advice or idea as to what I might be doing wrong?

Mike


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Re: [HOT] iD issues?

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On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 9:46 PM, Charlotte Wolter <[hidden email]> wrote:

        Some updates were made to iD some weeks ago. Apparently, somehow, it made clicking on a feature to select it more difficult. I use Firefox, and usually have to click 3 or 4 times to get an individual item selected.
I wonder if the folks that maintain iD could just temporarily revert to the previous version while this is worked out?  Just a thought. Regardless, I still think iD is a great piece of software and appreciate what Bryan and others do to maintain it.


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Re: [HOT] iD issues?

Ralph Dell

What url are you using for iD?

https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit in firefox or anywhere else gives me the issues you are having.

 

 

From: Mike Thompson [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2017 11:11 AM
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On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 9:46 PM, Charlotte Wolter <[hidden email]> wrote:


        Some updates were made to iD some weeks ago. Apparently, somehow, it made clicking on a feature to select it more difficult. I use Firefox, and usually have to click 3 or 4 times to get an individual item selected.

I wonder if the folks that maintain iD could just temporarily revert to the previous version while this is worked out?  Just a thought. Regardless, I still think iD is a great piece of software and appreciate what Bryan and others do to maintain it.

 


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Re: [HOT] iD issues?

Mike Thompson
Ralph,

That is the URL I am using.  I have been testing Firefox and IE this morning and have not been having any problems. Only under Chrome am I having a problem.

Mike

On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 12:15 PM, Ralph Dell <[hidden email]> wrote:

What url are you using for iD?

https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit in firefox or anywhere else gives me the issues you are having.

 

 

From: Mike Thompson [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2017 11:11 AM
To: Charlotte Wolter <[hidden email]>
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On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 9:46 PM, Charlotte Wolter <[hidden email]> wrote:


        Some updates were made to iD some weeks ago. Apparently, somehow, it made clicking on a feature to select it more difficult. I use Firefox, and usually have to click 3 or 4 times to get an individual item selected.

I wonder if the folks that maintain iD could just temporarily revert to the previous version while this is worked out?  Just a thought. Regardless, I still think iD is a great piece of software and appreciate what Bryan and others do to maintain it.

 



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Re: [HOT] iD issues?

Ralph Dell
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I meant to say firefox does not give me any issues. I will test chrome tomorrow.

So much for proof reading what I send.

From: Ralph Dell
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To: 'Mike Thompson' <[hidden email]>; Charlotte Wolter <[hidden email]>
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What url are you using for iD?

https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit in firefox or anywhere else gives me the issues you are having.

 

 

From: Mike Thompson [[hidden email]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2017 11:11 AM
To: Charlotte Wolter <[hidden email]>
Cc: Open Street Map Talk-US <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [Talk-us] [HOT] iD issues?

 

 

 

On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 9:46 PM, Charlotte Wolter <[hidden email]> wrote:


        Some updates were made to iD some weeks ago. Apparently, somehow, it made clicking on a feature to select it more difficult. I use Firefox, and usually have to click 3 or 4 times to get an individual item selected.

I wonder if the folks that maintain iD could just temporarily revert to the previous version while this is worked out?  Just a thought. Regardless, I still think iD is a great piece of software and appreciate what Bryan and others do to maintain it.

 


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Re: [HOT] iD issues?

Ralph Dell
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I am not having any problem selecting on a click in chrome.

I tried every type of feature and everything worked.

 

From: Mike Thompson [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2017 2:28 PM
To: Ralph Dell <[hidden email]>
Cc: Charlotte Wolter <[hidden email]>; Open Street Map Talk-US <[hidden email]>
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Ralph,

 

That is the URL I am using.  I have been testing Firefox and IE this morning and have not been having any problems. Only under Chrome am I having a problem.

 

Mike

 

On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 12:15 PM, Ralph Dell <[hidden email]> wrote:

What url are you using for iD?

https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit in firefox or anywhere else gives me the issues you are having.

 

 

From: Mike Thompson [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2017 11:11 AM
To: Charlotte Wolter <[hidden email]>
Cc: Open Street Map Talk-US <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [Talk-us] [HOT] iD issues?

 

 

 

On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 9:46 PM, Charlotte Wolter <[hidden email]> wrote:


        Some updates were made to iD some weeks ago. Apparently, somehow, it made clicking on a feature to select it more difficult. I use Firefox, and usually have to click 3 or 4 times to get an individual item selected.

I wonder if the folks that maintain iD could just temporarily revert to the previous version while this is worked out?  Just a thought. Regardless, I still think iD is a great piece of software and appreciate what Bryan and others do to maintain it.

 

 


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Re: [HOT] iD issues?

David Kewley
It may be a problem only on Windows -- I have no problem on my Chromebook.

Unfortunately a large fraction of laptops brought to a mapathon are typically Windows, I bet.

David

On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 5:27 AM, Ralph Dell <[hidden email]> wrote:

I am not having any problem selecting on a click in chrome.

I tried every type of feature and everything worked.

 

From: Mike Thompson [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2017 2:28 PM
To: Ralph Dell <[hidden email]>
Cc: Charlotte Wolter <[hidden email]>; Open Street Map Talk-US <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [Talk-us] [HOT] iD issues?

 

Ralph,

 

That is the URL I am using.  I have been testing Firefox and IE this morning and have not been having any problems. Only under Chrome am I having a problem.

 

Mike

 

On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 12:15 PM, Ralph Dell <[hidden email]> wrote:

What url are you using for iD?

https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit in firefox or anywhere else gives me the issues you are having.

 

 

From: Mike Thompson [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2017 11:11 AM
To: Charlotte Wolter <[hidden email]>
Cc: Open Street Map Talk-US <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [Talk-us] [HOT] iD issues?

 

 

 

On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 9:46 PM, Charlotte Wolter <[hidden email]> wrote:


        Some updates were made to iD some weeks ago. Apparently, somehow, it made clicking on a feature to select it more difficult. I use Firefox, and usually have to click 3 or 4 times to get an individual item selected.

I wonder if the folks that maintain iD could just temporarily revert to the previous version while this is worked out?  Just a thought. Regardless, I still think iD is a great piece of software and appreciate what Bryan and others do to maintain it.

 

 


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Re: [HOT] iD issues?

Bryan Housel
As far as I know, the issue is only with Chrome on Windows.. Firefox, IE, and Edge should be ok.

It’s very similar to another issue that I fixed in December, so I think I can probably get this fixed before the next iD release in a week or two.

The summary of this issue is - your browser generates lots of events for things like mouse button clicks and releases (mousedown and mouseup).  We use these to know whether you are clicking on things or dragging the map around.  Sometimes Chrome on Windows just loses the events - so we see a mousedown but not a mouseup, and the user is stuck mid-click while iD waits for an event that’s never going to happen.  

The fix is to just add some code to watch for this condition. If we’re waiting for a mouseup and we detect another mousedown, we know that the browser “lost” the mouseup event and we should just carry on as if the user is clicking a thing for the first time. 

Hope this is helpful.. I marked the issue as “priority” and I think I can get it fixed in the next week or so.

Thanks,
Bryan




On Apr 20, 2017, at 11:00 AM, David Kewley <[hidden email]> wrote:

It may be a problem only on Windows -- I have no problem on my Chromebook.

Unfortunately a large fraction of laptops brought to a mapathon are typically Windows, I bet.

David

On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 5:27 AM, Ralph Dell <[hidden email]> wrote:

I am not having any problem selecting on a click in chrome.

I tried every type of feature and everything worked.

 

From: Mike Thompson [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2017 2:28 PM
To: Ralph Dell <[hidden email]>
Cc: Charlotte Wolter <[hidden email]>; Open Street Map Talk-US <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [Talk-us] [HOT] iD issues?

 

Ralph,

 

That is the URL I am using.  I have been testing Firefox and IE this morning and have not been having any problems. Only under Chrome am I having a problem.

 

Mike

 

On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 12:15 PM, Ralph Dell <[hidden email]> wrote:

What url are you using for iD?

https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit in firefox or anywhere else gives me the issues you are having.

 

 

From: Mike Thompson [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2017 11:11 AM
To: Charlotte Wolter <[hidden email]>
Cc: Open Street Map Talk-US <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [Talk-us] [HOT] iD issues?

 

 

 

On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 9:46 PM, Charlotte Wolter <[hidden email]> wrote:


        Some updates were made to iD some weeks ago. Apparently, somehow, it made clicking on a feature to select it more difficult. I use Firefox, and usually have to click 3 or 4 times to get an individual item selected.

I wonder if the folks that maintain iD could just temporarily revert to the previous version while this is worked out?  Just a thought. Regardless, I still think iD is a great piece of software and appreciate what Bryan and others do to maintain it.

 

 


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Re: [HOT] iD issues?

Mike Thompson
Bryan,

Thanks for the update and for making this a priority. 

With my instructions to the participants not to use Chrome, last evening's Mapathon was success, and no one reported any iD related issues (actually there were no OSM related technical issues at all).  I often get a number of positive comments about the OSM technology, including iD, at an event, and yesterday was no different.

Mike

On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 9:36 AM, Bryan Housel <[hidden email]> wrote:
As far as I know, the issue is only with Chrome on Windows.. Firefox, IE, and Edge should be ok.

It’s very similar to another issue that I fixed in December, so I think I can probably get this fixed before the next iD release in a week or two.

The summary of this issue is - your browser generates lots of events for things like mouse button clicks and releases (mousedown and mouseup).  We use these to know whether you are clicking on things or dragging the map around.  Sometimes Chrome on Windows just loses the events - so we see a mousedown but not a mouseup, and the user is stuck mid-click while iD waits for an event that’s never going to happen.  

The fix is to just add some code to watch for this condition. If we’re waiting for a mouseup and we detect another mousedown, we know that the browser “lost” the mouseup event and we should just carry on as if the user is clicking a thing for the first time. 

Hope this is helpful.. I marked the issue as “priority” and I think I can get it fixed in the next week or so.

Thanks,
Bryan




On Apr 20, 2017, at 11:00 AM, David Kewley <[hidden email]> wrote:

It may be a problem only on Windows -- I have no problem on my Chromebook.

Unfortunately a large fraction of laptops brought to a mapathon are typically Windows, I bet.

David

On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 5:27 AM, Ralph Dell <[hidden email]> wrote:

I am not having any problem selecting on a click in chrome.

I tried every type of feature and everything worked.

 

From: Mike Thompson [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2017 2:28 PM
To: Ralph Dell <[hidden email]>
Cc: Charlotte Wolter <[hidden email]>; Open Street Map Talk-US <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [Talk-us] [HOT] iD issues?

 

Ralph,

 

That is the URL I am using.  I have been testing Firefox and IE this morning and have not been having any problems. Only under Chrome am I having a problem.

 

Mike

 

On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 12:15 PM, Ralph Dell <[hidden email]> wrote:

What url are you using for iD?

https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit in firefox or anywhere else gives me the issues you are having.

 

 

From: Mike Thompson [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2017 11:11 AM
To: Charlotte Wolter <[hidden email]>
Cc: Open Street Map Talk-US <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [Talk-us] [HOT] iD issues?

 

 

 

On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 9:46 PM, Charlotte Wolter <[hidden email]> wrote:


        Some updates were made to iD some weeks ago. Apparently, somehow, it made clicking on a feature to select it more difficult. I use Firefox, and usually have to click 3 or 4 times to get an individual item selected.

I wonder if the folks that maintain iD could just temporarily revert to the previous version while this is worked out?  Just a thought. Regardless, I still think iD is a great piece of software and appreciate what Bryan and others do to maintain it.

 

 


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