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Tomas Straupis Road hierarchy – Hello Road hierarchy is needed for a number of things: * deciding which classes of roads to display on different scales in a map * perf... Loading... Florian Lohoff-2 On Sun, Aug 04, 2019 at 09:35:41AM +0300, Tomas Straupis wrote: > Hello > > Road hierarchy is needed for a number of things: > ... Loading... ael On Sun, Aug 04, 2019 at 10:30:49AM +0200, Florian Lohoff wrote: > On Sun, Aug 04, 2019 at 09:35:41AM +0300, Tomas Straupis wrote: > > Hel... Loading... Florian Lohoff-2 On Sun, Aug 04, 2019 at 11:20:49AM +0100, ael wrote: > > For me unclassified is the same as residential. The difference is that > > ... Loading... dieterdreist sent from a phone > On 4. Aug 2019, at 15:37, Florian Lohoff <f@...> wrote: > > Their difference is usage. In case of residenti... Loading... Florian Lohoff-2 On Sun, Aug 04, 2019 at 04:30:54PM +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > sent from a phone > > On 4. Aug 2019, at 15:37, Florian Lohoff &... Loading... Paul Allen On Sun, 4 Aug 2019 at 15:51, Florian Lohoff <f@...> wrote: > > Where do you take this assumption from? I have never heard before t... Loading... Michael Tsang-2 On Sunday, 04 August 2019 23:06:47 HKT Paul Allen wrote: > On Sun, 4 Aug 2019 at 15:51, Florian Lohoff <f@...> wrote: > > Where d... Loading... Paul Allen On Wed, 7 Aug 2019 at 04:40, Michael Tsang <miklcct@...> wrote: > > The ability of through traffic passing a road does not depend ... Loading... Michael Tsang-2 On Wednesday, 07 August 2019 19:26:57 HKT Paul Allen wrote: > Standard carto gives secondary, and higher, roads their own colours and > ... Loading... Paul Allen On Thu, 8 Aug 2019 at 03:18, Michael Tsang <miklcct@...> wrote: If the "primary purpose" of the road is through traffic, and th... Loading... Peter Elderson To be practical, I think I will retag the clearly residential roads now tagged as 'unclassified' in my town, to 'residential'. Some roads are now... Loading... Paul Allen On Thu, 8 Aug 2019 at 12:18, Peter Elderson <pelderson@...> wrote: > To be practical, I think I will retag the clearly residential roa... Loading... Peter Elderson We're on the same page. The pavement and separations argument just illustrates how local authorities may make the same distinction, and try to r... Loading... Kevin Kenny-3 On Thu, Aug 8, 2019 at 11:12 AM Peter Elderson <pelderson@...> wrote: > > We're on the same page. The pavement and separations argumen... Loading... Julien djakk Hello ! I've been thinking about road hierarchy in OSM for a long time. Classifying roads should be the same all over the world ! :O The highwa... Loading... Paul Allen On Sat, 10 Aug 2019 at 11:42, Julien djakk <djakk.geographie@...> wrote: > > Classifying roads should be the same all over the wo... Loading... Julien djakk Hello Paul ! The "old" highway tag can give default values to the 5 new tags, so it is not necessary to re-map everything :) Yes you a... Loading... Paul Allen On Sat, 10 Aug 2019 at 17:27, Julien djakk <djakk.geographie@...> wrote: > > The "old" highway tag can give default val... Loading... dieterdreist sent from a phone > On 10. Aug 2019, at 19:34, Paul Allen <pla16021@...> wrote: > > So > you might say that highway=primary ... Loading... Paul Allen On Sat, 10 Aug 2019 at 21:22, Martin Koppenhoefer <dieterdreist@...> wrote: > > > or in other words if highway=primary always... Loading... dieterdreist sent from a phone > On 8. Aug 2019, at 13:41, Paul Allen <pla16021@...> wrote: > > Except I wouldn't let the pavements, greener... Loading... Paul Allen On Thu, 8 Aug 2019 at 14:51, Martin Koppenhoefer <dieterdreist@...> wrote: > > +1, historically (say pre-1960ies, I’m not old eno... Loading... dieterdreist sent from a phone > On 7. Aug 2019, at 13:26, Paul Allen <pla16021@...> wrote: > > As always, there are compromises to be made.... Loading... Jérôme Seigneuret-3 *Also the presence of shops and pubs may in some context indicate the principal road. * Depend of contexte because if this is a living_street... Loading... dieterdreist sent from a phone On 4. Aug 2019, at 16:50, Florian Lohoff <f@...> wrote: >> Residential roads are the roads inside the resi... Loading... Paul Allen On Mon, 5 Aug 2019 at 00:12, Martin Koppenhoefer <dieterdreist@...> wrote: this should be reverted, and I would be glad if someone did i... Loading... Florian Lohoff-2 On Mon, Aug 05, 2019 at 12:30:48AM +0100, Paul Allen wrote: > On Mon, 5 Aug 2019 at 00:12, Martin Koppenhoefer <dieterdreist@...> > ... Loading... Paul Allen On Mon, 5 Aug 2019 at 06:26, Florian Lohoff <f@...> wrote: > On Mon, Aug 05, 2019 at 12:30:48AM +0100, Paul Allen wrote: > &g... Loading... Warin I would recommend that the wiki reference the UK road classification scheme so those who want to can delve into the classification scheme OSM uses... Loading... dieterdreist sent from a phone > On 4. Aug 2019, at 15:37, Florian Lohoff <f@...> wrote: > > A residential is also an unclassified road. I... Loading... ael On Sun, Aug 04, 2019 at 04:23:03PM +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > sent from a phone > > > On 4. Aug 2019, at 15:37, ... Loading... Florian Lohoff-2 On Sun, Aug 04, 2019 at 07:55:16PM +0100, ael wrote: > On Sun, Aug 04, 2019 at 04:23:03PM +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > sent fr... Loading... Peter Elderson At the moment, 'unclassified' has so many different opinions that it means nothing at all. Could we at least agree on the basics: A. "unc... Loading... Warin On 05/08/19 16:32, Peter Elderson wrote: > At the moment, 'unclassified' has so many different opinions that it > means nothing at all. Cou... Loading... Peter Elderson I agree, but it also says don't expect it to be rendered or routed, it's a fixme error. Mappers have used and will use 'unclassified' because th... Loading... ael On Mon, Aug 05, 2019 at 05:53:10PM +1000, Warin wrote: > On 05/08/19 16:32, Peter Elderson wrote: > > At the moment, 'unclassified' has s... Loading... Peter Elderson My research tells me ‘unclassified’ means classified as ‘unclassified‘, which is a class of road in the public road system. Other roads cannot be ... Loading... AlaskaDave Peter wrote: My research tells me ‘unclassified’ means classified as ‘unclassified‘, which is a class of road in the public road system. I re... Loading... Peter Elderson It's supposed to be modeled after the british road system. If the class exists only in the UK and you're a strictie, then you should not use it ... Loading... Tomas Straupis Well, I would be reluctant to tag the ways leading to this remote house as unclassified or residential: https://openmap.lt/#h/17.01/54.19809/24.27... Loading... Tomas Straupis 2019-08-04, sk, 11:32 Florian Lohoff rašė: > For me unclassified is the same as residential. <...> Ok, so unclassified vs residential ... Loading... Michael Tsang-2 On Sunday, 04 August 2019 16:46:26 HKT Tomas Straupis wrote: > 2019-08-04, sk, 11:32 Florian Lohoff rašė: > > For me unclassified is th... Loading... Erkin Alp Güney Paved: service unpaved:track 4 Ağu 2019 Paz 11:47 tarihinde Tomas Straupis <tomasstraupis@...> şunu yazdı: > 2019-08-04, sk, 11:32... Loading... Florian Lohoff-2 On Sun, Aug 04, 2019 at 11:55:08AM +0300, Erkin Alp Güney wrote: > Paved: service unpaved:track So half of the highways in African countrie... Loading... Tomas Straupis Let's say we have a residential road R. Going out of this residential road there is a way A into the neighbouring residential area (say 50m lengt... Loading... Warin On 04/08/19 19:19, Tomas Straupis wrote: 1) > Let's say we have a residential road R. 2) > Going out of this residential road there is a w... Loading... Tomas Straupis All right, let's make it more detailed and more extended. R R RAAABBBBBBBBBBBB R A R R RCCCC R Now A and C are ways leading into the inner terr... Loading... Florian Lohoff-2 On Sun, Aug 04, 2019 at 12:46:05PM +0300, Tomas Straupis wrote: > Now I would like to skip road C at small scale, but leave A, because I >... Loading... Tomas Straupis 2019-08-04, sk, 12:59 Florian Lohoff rašė: > If B is a public road A cant be private property and thus not be > a service. If B is a track A... Loading... Florian Lohoff-2 On Sun, Aug 04, 2019 at 01:18:13PM +0300, Tomas Straupis wrote: > 2019-08-04, sk, 12:59 Florian Lohoff rašė: > > If B is a public road ... Loading... dieterdreist sent from a phone > On 4. Aug 2019, at 15:26, Florian Lohoff <f@...> wrote: > > - A service road may not carry a name (Because ... Loading... Florian Lohoff-2 On Sun, Aug 04, 2019 at 04:21:14PM +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > I don’t think this is a valid conclusion: > > - we are not res... Loading... dieterdreist sent from a phone > On 5. Aug 2019, at 07:06, Florian Lohoff <f@...> wrote: > > Which of those do carry names typically? I cant... Loading... Paul Allen On Tue, 6 Aug 2019 at 08:49, Martin Koppenhoefer <dieterdreist@...> wrote: > > > On 5. Aug 2019, at 07:06, Florian Lohoff <... Loading... dieterdreist sent from a phone > On 6. Aug 2019, at 11:15, Paul Allen <pla16021@...> wrote: > > Typically? In some parts of the world... Loading... Paul Allen On Tue, 6 Aug 2019 at 13:31, Martin Koppenhoefer <dieterdreist@...> wrote: I may have been misguided here, but to me any narrower pathwa... Loading... Philip Barnes On Tuesday, 6 August 2019, Paul Allen wrote: > On Tue, 6 Aug 2019 at 13:31, Martin Koppenhoefer <dieterdreist@...> > wrote: &... Loading... Paul Allen On Tue, 6 Aug 2019 at 15:16, Philip Barnes <phil@...> wrote: [Back alleys] > They have these where I used to visit my grandmother i... Loading... Kevin Kenny-3 On Mon, Aug 5, 2019 at 1:07 AM Florian Lohoff <f@...> wrote: > Correct - But from my experience its either a service or it has > a... Loading... AlaskaDave >Different places, different practices. In the rural areas near here, a great many private service ways have names, so that the houses on them... Loading... Colin Smale On 2019-08-04 11:57, Florian Lohoff wrote: > This is why i get to the point "is it a public road" and "a public > road ca... Loading... Florian Lohoff-2 On Sun, Aug 04, 2019 at 12:25:49PM +0200, Colin Smale wrote: > On 2019-08-04 11:57, Florian Lohoff wrote: > > > This is why i get ... Loading... brad R - unclassified A - unclassified B - track C - residential On 8/4/19 3:46 AM, Tomas Straupis wrote: > All right, let's make it more detaile... Loading... Florian Lohoff-2 On Sun, Aug 04, 2019 at 12:19:52PM +0300, Tomas Straupis wrote: > Let's say we have a residential road R. Going out of this residential road ... Loading... Tomas Straupis 2019-08-04, sk, 11:56 Erkin Alp Güney rašė: > Paved: service unpaved:track service could always be paved and unpaved. track used to be alw... Loading... Warin On 04/08/19 19:08, Tomas Straupis wrote: > 2019-08-04, sk, 11:56 Erkin Alp Güney rašė: >> Paved: service unpaved:track > service co... Loading... Florian Lohoff-2 Hi, On Sun, Aug 04, 2019 at 11:46:26AM +0300, Tomas Straupis wrote: > 2019-08-04, sk, 11:32 Florian Lohoff rašė: > > For me unclassi... Loading... dieterdreist sent from a phone > On 4. Aug 2019, at 11:06, Florian Lohoff <f@...> wrote: > > For me a public road > can not be a service.... Loading... dieterdreist sent from a phone > On 4. Aug 2019, at 10:46, Tomas Straupis <tomasstraupis@...> wrote: > > But what about service/track? bot... Loading... Graeme Fitzpatrick On Sun, 4 Aug 2019 at 16:37, Tomas Straupis <tomasstraupis@...> wrote: > > There is non written (or I could not find in wiki) or... Loading... Tomas Straupis > Personally, I'd have put residential / living together above unclassified Interesting. Unclassified was always (more than 10 years) define... Loading... Michael Tsang-2 On Sunday, 04 August 2019 15:41:09 HKT Tomas Straupis wrote: > > Personally, I'd have put residential / living together above unclassified ... Loading... Mark Wagner On Sun, 4 Aug 2019 09:35:41 +0300 Tomas Straupis <tomasstraupis@...> wrote: > Hello > > Road hierarchy is needed for a number o... Loading... « Return to Tagging  |  1 view|%1 views

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