Tomas Straupis
Road hierarchy –
Hello
Road hierarchy is needed for a number of things:
* deciding which classes of roads to display on different scales in a map
* perf...
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Florian Lohoff-2
On Sun, Aug 04, 2019 at 09:35:41AM +0300, Tomas Straupis wrote:
> Hello
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> Road hierarchy is needed for a number of things:
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ael
On Sun, Aug 04, 2019 at 10:30:49AM +0200, Florian Lohoff wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 04, 2019 at 09:35:41AM +0300, Tomas Straupis wrote:
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Florian Lohoff-2
On Sun, Aug 04, 2019 at 11:20:49AM +0100, ael wrote:
> > For me unclassified is the same as residential. The difference is that
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dieterdreist
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> On 4. Aug 2019, at 15:37, Florian Lohoff <f@...> wrote:
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> Their difference is usage. In case of residenti...
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Florian Lohoff-2
On Sun, Aug 04, 2019 at 04:30:54PM +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
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Paul Allen
On Sun, 4 Aug 2019 at 15:51, Florian Lohoff <f@...> wrote:
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> Where do you take this assumption from? I have never heard before t...
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Michael Tsang-2
On Sunday, 04 August 2019 23:06:47 HKT Paul Allen wrote:
> On Sun, 4 Aug 2019 at 15:51, Florian Lohoff <f@...> wrote:
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Paul Allen
On Wed, 7 Aug 2019 at 04:40, Michael Tsang <miklcct@...> wrote:
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> The ability of through traffic passing a road does not depend ...
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Michael Tsang-2
On Wednesday, 07 August 2019 19:26:57 HKT Paul Allen wrote:
> Standard carto gives secondary, and higher, roads their own colours and
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Paul Allen
On Thu, 8 Aug 2019 at 03:18, Michael Tsang <miklcct@...> wrote:
If the "primary purpose" of the road is through traffic, and th...
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Peter Elderson
To be practical, I think I will retag the clearly residential roads now
tagged as 'unclassified' in my town, to 'residential'. Some roads are now...
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Paul Allen
On Thu, 8 Aug 2019 at 12:18, Peter Elderson <pelderson@...> wrote:
> To be practical, I think I will retag the clearly residential roa...
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Peter Elderson
We're on the same page. The pavement and separations argument just
illustrates how local authorities may make the same distinction, and try to
r...
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Kevin Kenny-3
On Thu, Aug 8, 2019 at 11:12 AM Peter Elderson <pelderson@...> wrote:
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> We're on the same page. The pavement and separations argumen...
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Julien djakk
Hello !
I've been thinking about road hierarchy in OSM for a long time.
Classifying roads should be the same all over the world ! :O
The highwa...
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Paul Allen
On Sat, 10 Aug 2019 at 11:42, Julien djakk <djakk.geographie@...>
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> Classifying roads should be the same all over the wo...
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Julien djakk
Hello Paul !
The "old" highway tag can give default values to the 5 new tags, so it
is not necessary to re-map everything :)
Yes you a...
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Paul Allen
On Sat, 10 Aug 2019 at 17:27, Julien djakk <djakk.geographie@...>
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> The "old" highway tag can give default val...
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dieterdreist
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> On 10. Aug 2019, at 19:34, Paul Allen <pla16021@...> wrote:
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> So
> you might say that highway=primary ...
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Paul Allen
On Sat, 10 Aug 2019 at 21:22, Martin Koppenhoefer <dieterdreist@...>
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> or in other words if highway=primary always...
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dieterdreist
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> On 8. Aug 2019, at 13:41, Paul Allen <pla16021@...> wrote:
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> Except I wouldn't let the pavements, greener...
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Paul Allen
On Thu, 8 Aug 2019 at 14:51, Martin Koppenhoefer <dieterdreist@...>
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> +1, historically (say pre-1960ies, I’m not old eno...
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dieterdreist
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> On 7. Aug 2019, at 13:26, Paul Allen <pla16021@...> wrote:
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> As always, there are compromises to be made....
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Jérôme Seigneuret-3
*Also the presence of shops and pubs may in some context indicate the
principal road. *
Depend of contexte because if this is a living_street...
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dieterdreist
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On 4. Aug 2019, at 16:50, Florian Lohoff <f@...> wrote:
>> Residential roads are the roads inside the resi...
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Paul Allen
On Mon, 5 Aug 2019 at 00:12, Martin Koppenhoefer <dieterdreist@...>
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this should be reverted, and I would be glad if someone did i...
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Florian Lohoff-2
On Mon, Aug 05, 2019 at 12:30:48AM +0100, Paul Allen wrote:
> On Mon, 5 Aug 2019 at 00:12, Martin Koppenhoefer <dieterdreist@...>
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Paul Allen
On Mon, 5 Aug 2019 at 06:26, Florian Lohoff <f@...> wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 05, 2019 at 12:30:48AM +0100, Paul Allen wrote:
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Warin
I would recommend that the wiki reference the UK road classification scheme so those who want to can delve into the classification scheme OSM uses...
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dieterdreist
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> On 4. Aug 2019, at 15:37, Florian Lohoff <f@...> wrote:
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> A residential is also an unclassified road.
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ael
On Sun, Aug 04, 2019 at 04:23:03PM +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
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Florian Lohoff-2
On Sun, Aug 04, 2019 at 07:55:16PM +0100, ael wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 04, 2019 at 04:23:03PM +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
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Peter Elderson
At the moment, 'unclassified' has so many different opinions that it means
nothing at all. Could we at least agree on the basics:
A. "unc...
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Warin
On 05/08/19 16:32, Peter Elderson wrote:
> At the moment, 'unclassified' has so many different opinions that it
> means nothing at all. Cou...
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Peter Elderson
I agree, but it also says don't expect it to be rendered or routed, it's a
fixme error. Mappers have used and will use 'unclassified' because th...
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ael
On Mon, Aug 05, 2019 at 05:53:10PM +1000, Warin wrote:
> On 05/08/19 16:32, Peter Elderson wrote:
> > At the moment, 'unclassified' has s...
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Peter Elderson
My research tells me ‘unclassified’ means classified as ‘unclassified‘, which is a class of road in the public road system. Other roads cannot be ...
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AlaskaDave
Peter wrote:
My research tells me ‘unclassified’ means classified as ‘unclassified‘,
which is a class of road in the public road system.
I re...
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Peter Elderson
It's supposed to be modeled after the british road system. If the class
exists only in the UK and you're a strictie, then you should not use it
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Tomas Straupis
Well, I would be reluctant to tag the ways leading to this remote
house as unclassified or residential:
https://openmap.lt/#h/17.01/54.19809/24.27...
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Tomas Straupis
2019-08-04, sk, 11:32 Florian Lohoff rašė:
> For me unclassified is the same as residential. <...>
Ok, so unclassified vs residential ...
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Michael Tsang-2
On Sunday, 04 August 2019 16:46:26 HKT Tomas Straupis wrote:
> 2019-08-04, sk, 11:32 Florian Lohoff rašė:
> > For me unclassified is th...
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Erkin Alp Güney
Paved: service unpaved:track
4 Ağu 2019 Paz 11:47 tarihinde Tomas Straupis <tomasstraupis@...>
şunu yazdı:
> 2019-08-04, sk, 11:32...
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Florian Lohoff-2
On Sun, Aug 04, 2019 at 11:55:08AM +0300, Erkin Alp Güney wrote:
> Paved: service unpaved:track
So half of the highways in African countrie...
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Tomas Straupis
Let's say we have a residential road R. Going out of this residential road
there is a way A into the neighbouring residential area (say 50m lengt...
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Warin
On 04/08/19 19:19, Tomas Straupis wrote:
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> Let's say we have a residential road R.
2)
> Going out of this residential road there is a w...
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Tomas Straupis
All right, let's make it more detailed and more extended.
R
R
RAAABBBBBBBBBBBB
R A
R
R
RCCCC
R
Now A and C are ways leading into the inner terr...
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Florian Lohoff-2
On Sun, Aug 04, 2019 at 12:46:05PM +0300, Tomas Straupis wrote:
> Now I would like to skip road C at small scale, but leave A, because I
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Tomas Straupis
2019-08-04, sk, 12:59 Florian Lohoff rašė:
> If B is a public road A cant be private property and thus not be
> a service. If B is a track A...
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Florian Lohoff-2
On Sun, Aug 04, 2019 at 01:18:13PM +0300, Tomas Straupis wrote:
> 2019-08-04, sk, 12:59 Florian Lohoff rašė:
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dieterdreist
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> On 4. Aug 2019, at 15:26, Florian Lohoff <f@...> wrote:
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> - A service road may not carry a name (Because ...
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Florian Lohoff-2
On Sun, Aug 04, 2019 at 04:21:14PM +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> I don’t think this is a valid conclusion:
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> - we are not res...
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dieterdreist
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> On 5. Aug 2019, at 07:06, Florian Lohoff <f@...> wrote:
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> Which of those do carry names typically? I cant...
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Paul Allen
On Tue, 6 Aug 2019 at 08:49, Martin Koppenhoefer <dieterdreist@...>
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dieterdreist
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> On 6. Aug 2019, at 11:15, Paul Allen <pla16021@...> wrote:
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> Typically? In some parts of the world...
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Paul Allen
On Tue, 6 Aug 2019 at 13:31, Martin Koppenhoefer <dieterdreist@...>
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I may have been misguided here, but to me any narrower pathwa...
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Philip Barnes
On Tuesday, 6 August 2019, Paul Allen wrote:
> On Tue, 6 Aug 2019 at 13:31, Martin Koppenhoefer <dieterdreist@...>
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Paul Allen
On Tue, 6 Aug 2019 at 15:16, Philip Barnes <phil@...> wrote:
[Back alleys]
> They have these where I used to visit my grandmother i...
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Kevin Kenny-3
On Mon, Aug 5, 2019 at 1:07 AM Florian Lohoff <f@...> wrote:
> Correct - But from my experience its either a service or it has
> a...
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AlaskaDave
>Different places, different practices. In the rural areas near here, a
great many private service ways have names, so that the houses on them...
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Colin Smale
On 2019-08-04 11:57, Florian Lohoff wrote:
> This is why i get to the point "is it a public road" and "a public
> road ca...
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Florian Lohoff-2
On Sun, Aug 04, 2019 at 12:25:49PM +0200, Colin Smale wrote:
> On 2019-08-04 11:57, Florian Lohoff wrote:
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brad haack
R - unclassified
A - unclassified
B - track
C - residential
On 8/4/19 3:46 AM, Tomas Straupis wrote:
> All right, let's make it more detaile...
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Florian Lohoff-2
On Sun, Aug 04, 2019 at 12:19:52PM +0300, Tomas Straupis wrote:
> Let's say we have a residential road R. Going out of this residential road
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Tomas Straupis
2019-08-04, sk, 11:56 Erkin Alp Güney rašė:
> Paved: service unpaved:track
service could always be paved and unpaved.
track used to be alw...
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Warin
On 04/08/19 19:08, Tomas Straupis wrote:
> 2019-08-04, sk, 11:56 Erkin Alp Güney rašė:
>> Paved: service unpaved:track
> service co...
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Florian Lohoff-2
Hi,
On Sun, Aug 04, 2019 at 11:46:26AM +0300, Tomas Straupis wrote:
> 2019-08-04, sk, 11:32 Florian Lohoff rašė:
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dieterdreist
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> On 4. Aug 2019, at 11:06, Florian Lohoff <f@...> wrote:
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> For me a public road
> can not be a service....
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dieterdreist
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> On 4. Aug 2019, at 10:46, Tomas Straupis <tomasstraupis@...> wrote:
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> But what about service/track?
bot...
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Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Sun, 4 Aug 2019 at 16:37, Tomas Straupis <tomasstraupis@...> wrote:
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> There is non written (or I could not find in wiki) or...
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Tomas Straupis
> Personally, I'd have put residential / living together above unclassified
Interesting. Unclassified was always (more than 10 years) define...
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Michael Tsang-2
On Sunday, 04 August 2019 15:41:09 HKT Tomas Straupis wrote:
> > Personally, I'd have put residential / living together above unclassified
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Mark Wagner
On Sun, 4 Aug 2019 09:35:41 +0300
Tomas Straupis <tomasstraupis@...> wrote:
> Hello
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> Road hierarchy is needed for a number o...