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User deleting abandoned and rejected proposals on the wiki

Michael Reichert-3
Hi,

I (Mateusz Konieczny was faster) found a user who removes all content
from abandoned and rejected proposal pages on the wiki and adds the
Delete template. It's the template asking a administrator to delete the
page. I think that our admins are clever enough to not blindly follow
these requests but his edits cause unnecessary workload for them and
make it difficult to use the wiki.

I would appreciate it if someone else reading this email could comment
on his talk page. Maybe we are able to convince him why he is wrong.

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User_talk:Adamant1

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Adamant1

These are some of the affected wiki pages:

*Proposal pages*
Proposed features/Adult services ‎(shop=adult and other, has not reached
RFC for 8 years)
Proposed features/parking aisle (highway=parking_aisle, rejected, has
become obselete by service=parking_aisle)
Proposed features/Bag shop (shop=bag, tag in use, proposal abandoned)
Proposed features/boat=private (boat=private, has not reached RFC since
2008)
Proposed features/Marked trail (marked_trail=<color>, has not reached
RFC since 2008/2009)
Proposed_features/Fire_Hydrant (amenity=fire_hydrant, rejected in 2010,
12,000–14,000 objects from 2010 to 2015 in the database)
Proposed features/Driving pleasure (Driving_pleasure=1/2/3/4/5,
cancelled in 2010)
Proposed_features/agricultural_access (access=agricultural, proposal
never left draft state but 120,000 objects in the database)
Proposed_features/4th_Dimension (incomplete proposal from 2009 but long
discussion page)

*Documentation and other pages about "outdated software"
- Potlatch_1/Development_overview/GPS_tracks
- a lot of pages about Kosmos (predecessor of Maperitive), mainly
rendering rules

*Old events*
South_East_London_Mapping_Party (mapping party in 2008)

Best regards

Michael

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Re: User deleting abandoned and rejected proposals on the wiki

Dave F
Hi

Unsure what Adam's precise error has been (User Page = TL;DR), but giving the wiki a spring clean seems like good idea. Asking the admin to remove old pages is the correct way to do it. Has he deleted any himself?

How has making it clear that they're not current pages "made it difficult to use the wiki"?

I get irritated when doing an OSM wiki/Google search & they return proposals that have been redundant/ out of date for years. It must be very confusing for new users (the people most likely to use the wiki)

So many proposals are by users who get confused by a situation, suggest a tag *very* similar to an existing one, or have a 'solution' to which they're desperate to find a problem to hang it on.

What's wrong with cleaning up the wiki?

There appears to be a growing fear of removing obsolete data from OSM, both the wiki & databases. I can't fathom why.

Cheers
DaveF



On 25/07/2018 16:46, Michael Reichert wrote:
Hi,

I (Mateusz Konieczny was faster) found a user who removes all content
from abandoned and rejected proposal pages on the wiki and adds the
Delete template. It's the template asking a administrator to delete the
page. I think that our admins are clever enough to not blindly follow
these requests but his edits cause unnecessary workload for them and
make it difficult to use the wiki.

I would appreciate it if someone else reading this email could comment
on his talk page. Maybe we are able to convince him why he is wrong.

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User_talk:Adamant1

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Adamant1

These are some of the affected wiki pages:

*Proposal pages*
Proposed features/Adult services ‎(shop=adult and other, has not reached
RFC for 8 years)
Proposed features/parking aisle (highway=parking_aisle, rejected, has
become obselete by service=parking_aisle)
Proposed features/Bag shop (shop=bag, tag in use, proposal abandoned)
Proposed features/boat=private (boat=private, has not reached RFC since
2008)
Proposed features/Marked trail (marked_trail=<color>, has not reached
RFC since 2008/2009)
Proposed_features/Fire_Hydrant (amenity=fire_hydrant, rejected in 2010,
12,000–14,000 objects from 2010 to 2015 in the database)
Proposed features/Driving pleasure (Driving_pleasure=1/2/3/4/5,
cancelled in 2010)
Proposed_features/agricultural_access (access=agricultural, proposal
never left draft state but 120,000 objects in the database)
Proposed_features/4th_Dimension (incomplete proposal from 2009 but long
discussion page)

*Documentation and other pages about "outdated software"
- Potlatch_1/Development_overview/GPS_tracks
- a lot of pages about Kosmos (predecessor of Maperitive), mainly
rendering rules

*Old events*
South_East_London_Mapping_Party (mapping party in 2008)

Best regards

Michael



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