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Sérgio V.

Hello,

please, one question:

Why is the link to 

https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/osmf-talk/

not directly accessible by the 

https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo?

I've read  in http://www.weeklyosm.eu about some interesting discussions there,

but I can't find the link to osmf-talk in the listinfo.

I'm not questioning necessarily for subscribing it, if it's for members only, but I thought it was public to read since as reported to follow it, and the significance of the OSMF talks for the whole OSM community, including to consider joining as associated member, etc.

Sorry if not good english.

Thanks in advance.

From Brazil, 


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Tom Hughes-3
On 18/12/17 19:49, Sérgio V. wrote:

> please, one question:
>
> Why is the link to
>
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/osmf-talk/
>
> not directly accessible by the
>
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo?
>
> I've read inhttp://www.weeklyosm.eu <http://www.weeklyosm.eu/> about
> some interesting discussions there,
>
> but I can't find the link to osmf-talk in the listinfo.

It's a list for OSMF members that they are subscribed to when they join
and it's open for public subscription.

Tom

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Mike N.
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On 12/18/2017 2:49 PM, Sérgio V. wrote:
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo?
>
> I've read  in http://www.weeklyosm.eu <http://www.weeklyosm.eu/> about
> some interesting discussions there,
>
> but I can't find the link to osmf-talk in the listinfo.

  I'm not sure why it wasn't listed on that page, but there is a link to
the OSMF-talk archives from the Wiki

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mailing_lists



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Sérgio V.
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>> but I can't find the link to osmf-talk in the listinfo.
>  I'm not sure why it wasn't listed on that page, but there is a link to 
the OSMF-talk archives from the Wiki

Ok, thank you both. I've found it, as I've quoted it. 
But it's actually not easy to find like the others are, just by the listinfo.
Long time it took to me to realise OSMF-talk exists. Ok, perhaps I'm not that wiki expert. 
But would it be nice to have it listed in listinfo? Like all the other mailing lists are? Easy to find, for everyone.
Then probably more OSMers could read it; also perhaps considering join it. 
Or, at least, why isn't it listed in listinfo?

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Tom Hughes-3
On 19/12/17 22:51, Sérgio V. wrote:

>>> but I can't find the link to osmf-talk in the listinfo.
>>  I'm not sure why it wasn't listed on that page, but there is a link to
> the OSMF-talk archives from the Wiki
>
> Ok, thank you both. I've found it, as I've quoted it.
> But it's actually not easy to find like the others are, just
> by the listinfo.
> Long time it took to me to realise OSMF-talk exists. Ok, perhaps I'm not
> that wiki expert.
> But would it be nice to have it listed in listinfo? Like all the other
> mailing lists are? Easy to find, for everyone.
> Then probably more OSMers could read it; also perhaps considering join it.
> Or, at least, why isn't it listed in listinfo?

As I explained yesterday it is a private list open only to OSMF members.

Tom

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joost
Tom, 
It is meant to be readable for non-members, right? So what exactly has the fact you can't post as a non-OSMF member to do with being or not being listed on listinfo?


Op 20 dec. 2017 12:57 a.m. schreef "Tom Hughes" <[hidden email]>:
On 19/12/17 22:51, Sérgio V. wrote:
but I can't find the link to osmf-talk in the listinfo.
  I'm not sure why it wasn't listed on that page, but there is a link to
the OSMF-talk archives from the Wiki

Ok, thank you both. I've found it, as I've quoted it.
But it's actually not easy to find like the others are, just by the listinfo.
Long time it took to me to realise OSMF-talk exists. Ok, perhaps I'm not that wiki expert.
But would it be nice to have it listed in listinfo? Like all the other mailing lists are? Easy to find, for everyone.
Then probably more OSMers could read it; also perhaps considering join it.
Or, at least, why isn't it listed in listinfo?

As I explained yesterday it is a private list open only to OSMF members.

Tom

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Tom Hughes-3
I don't think the archives being semi-visible is deliberate, but it's
not my decision.

I can't remember now if I created it but I suspect I did and I probably
created it as hidden because the idea was that people would be added and
removed automatically as they joined and left OSMF and having it listed
would just cause confusion as people tried to join it.

The archives could be made private but it's a bit of a pain because then
the list members have to login to access them.

Tom

On 20/12/17 00:20, joost schouppe wrote:

> Tom,
> It is meant to be readable for non-members, right? So what exactly has
> the fact you can't post as a non-OSMF member to do with being or not
> being listed on listinfo?
>
>
> Op 20 dec. 2017 12:57 a.m. schreef "Tom Hughes" <[hidden email]
> <mailto:[hidden email]>>:
>
>     On 19/12/17 22:51, Sérgio V. wrote:
>
>                 but I can't find the link to osmf-talk in the listinfo.
>
>                I'm not sure why it wasn't listed on that page, but there
>             is a link to
>
>         the OSMF-talk archives from the Wiki
>
>         Ok, thank you both. I've found it, as I've quoted it.
>         But it's actually not easy to find like the others are, just
>         by the listinfo.
>         Long time it took to me to realise OSMF-talk exists. Ok, perhaps
>         I'm not that wiki expert.
>         But would it be nice to have it listed in listinfo? Like all the
>         other mailing lists are? Easy to find, for everyone.
>         Then probably more OSMers could read it; also perhaps
>         considering join it.
>         Or, at least, why isn't it listed in listinfo?
>
>
>     As I explained yesterday it is a private list open only to OSMF members.
>
>     Tom
>
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Sérgio V.
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Of course I understand, and support, that sending emails to OSMF-talk  is only to OSMF members, a non-member should not have the right to send emails to that list. 
But readable it is; as usual in democratic institutions, where discussions can be listen
So the easier it could be to find OSMF-talk to be read, by any OSMer, the better, the more democratic it is. 
Of course, hope it keeps openly readable. 
The discussions there are relevant for the rest of the OSM world. Thanks.

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De: Tom Hughes <[hidden email]>
Enviado: terça-feira, 19 de dezembro de 2017 21:54
Para: Sérgio V.; [hidden email]
Assunto: Re: no osmf-talk link at listinfo
 
On 19/12/17 22:51, Sérgio V. wrote:
>>> but I can't find the link to osmf-talk in the listinfo.
>>  I'm not sure why it wasn't listed on that page, but there is a link to
> the OSMF-talk archives from the Wiki
>
> Ok, thank you both. I've found it, as I've quoted it.
> But it's actually not easy to find like the others are, just
> by the listinfo.
> Long time it took to me to realise OSMF-talk exists. Ok, perhaps I'm not
> that wiki expert.
> But would it be nice to have it listed in listinfo? Like all the other
> mailing lists are? Easy to find, for everyone.
> Then probably more OSMers could read it; also perhaps considering join it.
> Or, at least, why isn't it listed in listinfo?

As I explained yesterday it is a private list open only to OSMF members.

Tom

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Marc Gemis
It's listed on https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mailing_lists
Just click on the "archive" link there to access it (read-only of
course) as a non OSMF member.


m.

On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 4:19 AM, Sérgio V. <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Of course I understand, and support, that sending emails to OSMF-talk  is
> only to OSMF members, a non-member should not have the right to send emails
> to that list.
> But readable it is; as usual in democratic institutions, where discussions
> can be listen.
> So the easier it could be to find OSMF-talk to be read, by any OSMer, the
> better, the more democratic it is.
> Of course, hope it keeps openly readable.
> The discussions there are relevant for the rest of the OSM world. Thanks.
>
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>
> Sérgio - http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/smaprs
>
>
>
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> De: Tom Hughes <[hidden email]>
> Enviado: terça-feira, 19 de dezembro de 2017 21:54
> Para: Sérgio V.; [hidden email]
> Assunto: Re: no osmf-talk link at listinfo
>
> On 19/12/17 22:51, Sérgio V. wrote:
>>>> but I can't find the link to osmf-talk in the listinfo.
>>>  I'm not sure why it wasn't listed on that page, but there is a link to
>> the OSMF-talk archives from the Wiki
>>
>> Ok, thank you both. I've found it, as I've quoted it.
>> But it's actually not easy to find like the others are, just
>> by the listinfo.
>> Long time it took to me to realise OSMF-talk exists. Ok, perhaps I'm not
>> that wiki expert.
>> But would it be nice to have it listed in listinfo? Like all the other
>> mailing lists are? Easy to find, for everyone.
>> Then probably more OSMers could read it; also perhaps considering join it.
>> Or, at least, why isn't it listed in listinfo?
>
> As I explained yesterday it is a private list open only to OSMF members.
>
> Tom
>
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